[kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?

[Darcy Casselman]

This dude's tone makes me less inclined to believe what he has to say.  And
the big lie he purports to be exposing is something I gathered from a
cursory glance at a couple of articles, including the Hanselman one.

Mind you, I've actually worked in .NET.  So I have a reasonable idea of the
stuff they're talking about.  (Tho if you haven't done any .NET
development, I'm not sure why you'd care...)

Darcy.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jeff Smith <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here's an article on how .net is _not_ open source, but lazy reporters
> will tell you otherwise...
>
> http://techrights.org/2014/11/12/openwashing-lockin/
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:54:28 -0500
> > From: kb at 2bits.com
> > To: kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
> > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?
>
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > No one who is using FLOSS stacks will jump to .NET just because it is
> > now MIT licensed and open source.
> >
> > But, for shops who use .NET already, and pondering a move to a Linux
> > stack, they may consider staying with .NET and having minimal changes
> > for it to work, rather than rewrite everything.
> >
> > So, maybe it is a customer retention move on Microsoft's part ...
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Ralph Janke <txwikinger at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
> > > Well, it means that M$ has started to understand that the world has
> > > changed through FLOSS, and they have to go with the time.
> > >
> > > Generally, I would be very careful about the t&c behind it. I have
> > > not looked at the actual licenses and the restrictions or underlying
> > > IP, which often is a problem.
> > >
> > > ASP.Net and C# are not as mind blowing that I would change from
> > > a traditional FLOSS language to it. In particular, most of the time
> > > the libraries that are available under the fitting FLOSS license
> > > are more important.
> > >
> > > However, I think it is a good path for current ASP/NET developers
> > > to find their way into FLOSS, and hence a further strengthening
> > > of the FLOSS community.
> > >
> > > tx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2014-11-13 10:21, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I am not sure what to make of it.
> > >>
> > >> Could be admission that the tech world has changed a lot and they are
> > >> no longer dominant, with the proliferation of Linux in the server
> > >> market, and Apple/Android in the mobile market.
> > >>
> > >> Could be a desperate move trying to look nice and appeal to some who
> > >> are considering moving to a Linux stack (Java, ...)
> > >>
> > >> I can't think of how this would fit their old pattern of Embrace,
> > >> Extend, Extinguish. They can't do that anymore across the board given
> > >> the above.
> > >>
> > >> C# is actually a decent language. They learned from forking Java, and
> > >> fixed some of Java's misgivings in C#. They build .NET to be a
> > >> bytecode like JVM. The major shortcoming of .NET is that it was
> > >> Windows only. Perhaps they are trying to fix that. Now, can they
> > >> really do that? With all the APIs that call Windows specific stuff?
> > >> --
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