[kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?

Jeff Smith crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Fri Nov 14 12:10:22 EST 2014


Here's an article on how .net is _not_ open source, but lazy reporters will tell you otherwise...
http://techrights.org/2014/11/12/openwashing-lockin/


> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:54:28 -0500
> From: kb at 2bits.com
> To: kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?
> 
> I agree.
> 
> No one who is using FLOSS stacks will jump to .NET just because it is
> now MIT licensed and open source.
> 
> But, for shops who use .NET already, and pondering a move to a Linux
> stack, they may consider staying with .NET and having minimal changes
> for it to work, rather than rewrite everything.
> 
> So, maybe it is a customer retention move on Microsoft's part ...
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Ralph Janke <txwikinger at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > Well, it means that M$ has started to understand that the world has
> > changed through FLOSS, and they have to go with the time.
> >
> > Generally, I would be very careful about the t&c behind it. I have
> > not looked at the actual licenses and the restrictions or underlying
> > IP, which often is a problem.
> >
> > ASP.Net and C# are not as mind blowing that I would change from
> > a traditional FLOSS language to it. In particular, most of the time
> > the libraries that are available under the fitting FLOSS license
> > are more  important.
> >
> > However, I think it is  a good path for current ASP/NET developers
> > to find their way into FLOSS, and hence a further strengthening
> > of the FLOSS community.
> >
> > tx
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2014-11-13 10:21, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not sure what to make of it.
> >>
> >> Could be admission that the tech world has changed a lot and they are
> >> no longer dominant, with the proliferation of Linux in the server
> >> market, and Apple/Android in the mobile market.
> >>
> >> Could be a desperate move trying to look nice and appeal to some who
> >> are considering moving to a Linux stack (Java, ...)
> >>
> >> I can't think of how this would fit their old pattern of Embrace,
> >> Extend, Extinguish. They can't do that anymore across the board given
> >> the above.
> >>
> >> C# is actually a decent language. They learned from forking Java, and
> >> fixed some of Java's misgivings in C#. They build .NET to be a
> >> bytecode like JVM. The major shortcoming of .NET is that it was
> >> Windows only. Perhaps they are trying to fix that. Now, can they
> >> really do that? With all the APIs that call Windows specific stuff?
> >> --
> >> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
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> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci
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> and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken
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