[kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?

[Chris Craig]

Even if you haven't done .NET development, there are broader implications...

On 14 November 2014 12:17, Darcy Casselman <dscassel at gmail.com> wrote:
> This dude's tone makes me less inclined to believe what he has to say.  And
> the big lie he purports to be exposing is something I gathered from a
> cursory glance at a couple of articles, including the Hanselman one.
>
> Mind you, I've actually worked in .NET.  So I have a reasonable idea of the
> stuff they're talking about.  (Tho if you haven't done any .NET development,
> I'm not sure why you'd care...)
>
> Darcy.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jeff Smith <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's an article on how .net is _not_ open source, but lazy reporters
>> will tell you otherwise...
>>
>> http://techrights.org/2014/11/12/openwashing-lockin/
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:54:28 -0500
>> > From: kb at 2bits.com
>> > To: kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
>> > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?
>>
>> >
>> > I agree.
>> >
>> > No one who is using FLOSS stacks will jump to .NET just because it is
>> > now MIT licensed and open source.
>> >
>> > But, for shops who use .NET already, and pondering a move to a Linux
>> > stack, they may consider staying with .NET and having minimal changes
>> > for it to work, rather than rewrite everything.
>> >
>> > So, maybe it is a customer retention move on Microsoft's part ...
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Ralph Janke <txwikinger at ubuntu.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Well, it means that M$ has started to understand that the world has
>> > > changed through FLOSS, and they have to go with the time.
>> > >
>> > > Generally, I would be very careful about the t&c behind it. I have
>> > > not looked at the actual licenses and the restrictions or underlying
>> > > IP, which often is a problem.
>> > >
>> > > ASP.Net and C# are not as mind blowing that I would change from
>> > > a traditional FLOSS language to it. In particular, most of the time
>> > > the libraries that are available under the fitting FLOSS license
>> > > are more important.
>> > >
>> > > However, I think it is a good path for current ASP/NET developers
>> > > to find their way into FLOSS, and hence a further strengthening
>> > > of the FLOSS community.
>> > >
>> > > tx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2014-11-13 10:21, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I am not sure what to make of it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Could be admission that the tech world has changed a lot and they are
>> > >> no longer dominant, with the proliferation of Linux in the server
>> > >> market, and Apple/Android in the mobile market.
>> > >>
>> > >> Could be a desperate move trying to look nice and appeal to some who
>> > >> are considering moving to a Linux stack (Java, ...)
>> > >>
>> > >> I can't think of how this would fit their old pattern of Embrace,
>> > >> Extend, Extinguish. They can't do that anymore across the board given
>> > >> the above.
>> > >>
>> > >> C# is actually a decent language. They learned from forking Java, and
>> > >> fixed some of Java's misgivings in C#. They build .NET to be a
>> > >> bytecode like JVM. The major shortcoming of .NET is that it was
>> > >> Windows only. Perhaps they are trying to fix that. Now, can they
>> > >> really do that? With all the APIs that call Windows specific stuff?
>> > >> --
>> > >> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
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>> > >>
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