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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Here's an article on how .net is _not_ open source, but lazy reporters will tell you otherwise...<div><br></div><div><a href="http://techrights.org/2014/11/12/openwashing-lockin/" target="_blank">http://techrights.org/2014/11/12/openwashing-lockin/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div>> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:54:28 -0500<br>> From: kb@2bits.com<br>> To: kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] ASP.NET 5 for Linux?<br>> <br>> I agree.<br>> <br>> No one who is using FLOSS stacks will jump to .NET just because it is<br>> now MIT licensed and open source.<br>> <br>> But, for shops who use .NET already, and pondering a move to a Linux<br>> stack, they may consider staying with .NET and having minimal changes<br>> for it to work, rather than rewrite everything.<br>> <br>> So, maybe it is a customer retention move on Microsoft's part ...<br>> <br>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Ralph Janke <txwikinger@ubuntu.com> wrote:<br>> > Well, it means that M$ has started to understand that the world has<br>> > changed through FLOSS, and they have to go with the time.<br>> ><br>> > Generally, I would be very careful about the t&c behind it. I have<br>> > not looked at the actual licenses and the restrictions or underlying<br>> > IP, which often is a problem.<br>> ><br>> > ASP.Net and C# are not as mind blowing that I would change from<br>> > a traditional FLOSS language to it. In particular, most of the time<br>> > the libraries that are available under the fitting FLOSS license<br>> > are more important.<br>> ><br>> > However, I think it is a good path for current ASP/NET developers<br>> > to find their way into FLOSS, and hence a further strengthening<br>> > of the FLOSS community.<br>> ><br>> > tx<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 2014-11-13 10:21, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> I am not sure what to make of it.<br>> >><br>> >> Could be admission that the tech world has changed a lot and they are<br>> >> no longer dominant, with the proliferation of Linux in the server<br>> >> market, and Apple/Android in the mobile market.<br>> >><br>> >> Could be a desperate move trying to look nice and appeal to some who<br>> >> are considering moving to a Linux stack (Java, ...)<br>> >><br>> >> I can't think of how this would fit their old pattern of Embrace,<br>> >> Extend, Extinguish. They can't do that anymore across the board given<br>> >> the above.<br>> >><br>> >> C# is actually a decent language. They learned from forking Java, and<br>> >> fixed some of Java's misgivings in C#. They build .NET to be a<br>> >> bytecode like JVM. The major shortcoming of .NET is that it was<br>> >> Windows only. Perhaps they are trying to fix that. Now, can they<br>> >> really do that? With all the APIs that call Windows specific stuff?<br>> >> --<br>> >> Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br>> >> 2bits.com, Inc.<br>> >> Fast Reliable Drupal<br>> >> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.<br>> >> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra<br>> >> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci<br>> >> For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple,<br>> >> and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> kwlug-disc mailing list<br>> >> kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>> >> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > txwikinger<br>> ><br>> > Long live free/libre software<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > kwlug-disc mailing list<br>> > kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>> > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br>> 2bits.com, Inc.<br>> Fast Reliable Drupal<br>> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.<br>> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra<br>> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci<br>> For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple,<br>> and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> kwlug-disc mailing list<br>> kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br></div></div> </div></body>
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