[kwlug-disc] So, I took the plunge... Mail In A Box

Chamunks chamunks at gmail.com
Wed Feb 21 16:39:09 EST 2018


I had an MLPPPoe setup once but now I'm just using a single link connection
with a static IP just for clarity.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:10 AM Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:

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> Other Bob wrote:
> > [Teksavvy] block port 25, period.
>
> To be fair, I think it's actually Rogers that blocks outbound port 25
> for Teksavvy's cable offering. Either through technical means, or
> through legal (contractual) means.  It's also the reason Teksavvy
> doesn't offer static IPs on straight non-MLPPP cable connections.
>
> The outbound port 25 block is still in place, as far as I can tell.
> Inbound port 25 works fine. So if you're OK with asymmetrical mail
> delivery you *can* run a mail server with Teksavvy.
>
> - --Bob.
>
>
> On 2018-02-19 09:46 PM, bob+kwlug at softscape.ca wrote:
> >> You could run a MIAB at home if you have a company like Teksavvy
> >> which will give you a DSL based Static IP which is the only
> >> chance you'll have to run a SMTP/POP/IMAP/etc server at home.
> >
> > I was looking to get the business cable from Teksavvy (since
> > that's the only way you can get a static IP from them on a Cable
> > service... via MLPPP!). I read through the terms of service since
> > it would have been on a multiyear commitment and found that they
> > block port 25, period. I called them to ask about that and the
> > response I got was that port 25 and a few other mail transport
> > related ones are blocked. No exceptions. I slammed the brakes on
> > it since I was kinda on the fence for the service in the first
> > place and it would primarily have been to self-host my email at
> > home, so completely defeated the purpose. Went with a dedicated
> > server at OVH instead.
> >
> > This was at least a year ago, so YMMV now. I know this is slightly
> > off-topic, but wanted to point that out so anyone thinking about
> > this should pay attention to their ISP's TOS.
> >
> >
> >> I don't know anything about the ISP mail relays but maybe?  It
> >> would fall outside of my scope though because I would imagine
> >> that my ISP's email relay would cost more money and I'm already
> >> renting this VPS for a OpenVPN instance.
> >
> > I suspect you could relay through any service you had an account
> > with that allowed something like Auth-before-SMTP or authenticated
> > SMTP. If you used a mail client on Gmail or o365 or whatever, this
> > is how it would send mail out through them for relay.
> >
> > From what I understand about smtp servers, you could even have
> > special transports to override directly delivery from your server
> > and instead use a relay for specific domains. This way you could
> > say any @gmail.com addresses... use this special transport that
> > would then be configured to authenticate the SMTP session and
> > cause the provider to allow the relay.
> >
> > BB
> >
> >
> >
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