[kwlug-disc] Ubuntu 17.10

[L.D. Paniak]

Sure, but some of my machines need to work without futzing about!

On 10/19/2017 01:51 PM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> Sanity is over-rated.  We're hackers!
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 at 13:50 Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com
> <mailto:kb at 2bits.com>> wrote:
>
>     That is exactly my strategy.
>
>     I learned a lesson the hard way around 10 or so years back when
>     I upgraded from an LTS to a non-LTS release, and got broken things
>     on KDE that almost drove me off from it then. Early this year I
>     switched from KDE to XFCE after I upgraded to 16.04 (one year
>     after it came out), and never looked back.
>
>     Ever since, I only stick with LTS releases, and life has been easier
>     that way.
>
>     Even with LTS, I tend to watch until at least the first .1 release
>     comes out and the main kinks ironed out.
>
>     Preserves your sanity that way.
>
>     On 10/19/17, L.D. Paniak <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com
>     <mailto:ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com>> wrote:
>     > Is there anything compelling in 17.10 that I cannot get in 16.04
>     with HWE?
>     > It is to the point where I am ignoring non-LTS releases in general.
>     >
>     > On 10/19/2017 12:54 PM, Keefer Rourke wrote:
>     >> I'm currently running Fedora 27 beta, and I'm really
>     disappointed with
>     >> GNOME 3.26.1 until recently, Mutter would crash any time you
>     closed a
>     >> maximized (or half-tiled) window. For a "stable" release, GNOME is
>     >> hugely disappointing.
>     >>
>     >> The bugs in *vanilla* GNOME have been show-stoppers for the final
>     >> release of Fedora 27 -- I'm honestly surprised that Canonical
>     decided
>     >> to release 17.10 with the current state of things.
>     >>
>     >> Cheers,
>     >> Keefer
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 15:27 +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>     >>> And a reason why I like to test new stuff out via virtual
>     machines,
>     >>> not real boxes!
>     >>>
>     >>> I had to submit two bug reports in the first few minutes.  But
>     now it
>     >>> seems to be running a bit better after another reboot..
>     >>>
>     >>> What can I say about it?  If you ignore the bright orange
>     background
>     >>> and the dock, it looks just like Fedora GNOME or any other
>     GNOME.  It
>     >>> will be interesting to see how Canonical keeps us interested
>     in their
>     >>> desktop product if it's just like anybody else's.
>     >>>
>     >>> Or maybe they'll just focus on the stuff they do well, like
>     MaaS and
>     >>> server and docker, etc.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 at 11:22 Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com
>     <mailto:kb at 2bits.com>
>     >>> <mailto:kb at 2bits.com <mailto:kb at 2bits.com>>> wrote:
>     >>>> On 10/19/17, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
>     <mailto:crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
>     >>>> <mailto:crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
>     <mailto:crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>>> > I just downloaded the new Ubuntu 17.10 and installed it in
>     a virtual
>     >>>> > machine (virtualbox on a Windows host).
>     >>>> >
>     >>>> > So far, it's interesting, but I'm sure I don't need to
>     remind the
>     >>>> people
>     >>>> > here to not drop a brand new release on a production box.  In
>     >>>> other words,
>     >>>> > I've come across quite a few bugs so far...
>     >>>>
>     >>>> One more reason I stay with LTS releases, and only after the
>     .1 version
>     >>>> of them comes out.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> --
>     >>>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
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