[kwlug-disc] It pays to check your plan

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Wed Oct 4 19:32:41 EDT 2017


Andrew, while I agree wholeheartedly with your general statement about
breaking up the duopoly's grip, I think they should be replaced outright
with a fibre network (FTTH) paid for by our tax dollars, and owned by the
people of Ontario/Canada/whatever (not necessarily the government: look at
Hydro One and a certain idiot's plan to sell it).

There is currently an initiative underway to provide high speed (they're
hoping for FTTH everywhere) in rural areas in SW Ontario by a consortium
called SWIFT.  You can find out more at http://swiftnetwork.ca/

Simply put, internet access is part of our infrastructure just like
highways.  The people should own it, not a handful of the 1%.  And
management of the public wires should be in the hands of people who know
their arses from their elbows, not the government.

Jeff, who puts on his Cranky mask when we talk politics...


On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 18:23 Andrew Kohlsmith (mailing lists account) <
aklists at mixdown.ca> wrote:

>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Dave Cramer <davecramer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm wondering how this might be possible? Seems like carrytel is just
> reselling rogers?
>
> The last mile is owned by Rogers or Bell. There is no getting around it.
> Anyone who is offering DSL or Cable is using the infrastructure of the
> incumbent.
>
> That’s why it’s my firm belief that these carriers must be broken up along
> this fault line (the last mile) — the last mile providers should not be
> allowed to sell to consumers, and the network companies must buy last mile
> circuits should not be allowed to own or operate last mile infrastructure.
> I definitely do *not* want the last mile nationalized; the surest way to
> eff-up Internet in Canada is to get the government involved in high
> technology.
>
> That would finally put Bell and Rogers (the internet provider companies)
> on equal and fair footing with the Teksavvys and the VMedias and the
> CarryTel’s and finally give us some real competition in this space. I have
> similar feelings toward cellular service and how it should be split up to
> allow real competition.
>
> -A.
>
>
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