[kwlug-disc] G Suite Free not free anymore

Tue Jan 25 22:04:31 EST 2022

My friend Luc suggested fastmail, I just started a free trial and I'm
really liking it so far. I've moved 3 domains MX records so far.

It's going to be $5 per month or $50 per year and it looks like it handles
multiple domains much nicer than my gmail setup did.

His referral code is https://ref.fm/u26025096 -- I accidentally signed up
without using his referral.  😅

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:33 AM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:

>
> John was posting from the wrong address but has a good contribution.
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:48:45 -0500
> From: John <john at jskw.ca>
> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> Cc: Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] G Suite Free not free anymore
>
> I'm in the same boat. Been using it since 2009. I have a postfix setup but
> I don't want to move their because email is the kind of thing that I want
> to have a good uptime for.
>
> GSuite seems a little pricey. So I'm going to be shopping around for
> alternatives.
>
> My understanding is that my purchases made on YouTube and the app store
> should still be available through my GSuite credentials. Before the May
> deadline I'll switch my MX records away from the Google ones and my
> Gmail/docs/chat will stop working but I should still be able to sign into
> it on my phone for app/YouTube purchases. Would be nice if I could transfer
> them to a personal Gmail account though.
>
>
> On Sun., Jan. 23, 2022, 01:12 Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc, <
> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:24:02PM -0500, Nickle, Brian wrote:
> > >I have used Google Apps pretty much since their inception to host my
> > >personal domain email.  However as of May Google will not allow free
> > >hosting and wants me to pay $7.80/month/user (i have 6).  I'm not really
> > >keen on self hosting email (too much upkeep).  What I wonder is how are
> > >others hosting their domains and email these days?
> >
> > Same here. I self-hosted before I moved in 2008, and switched to Google
> > Apps "temporarily" to avoid downtime. It turns out, I didn't miss self
> > hosting.
> >
> > I'm dealing with three single-user domains, not three users on one
> > domain, because google only allowed the additional domains to be aliases
> > at the time, and that isn't what I wanted.
> >
> > Since then, Android has come along, so that's the primary login for our
> > phones. So it's not "just" email now.
> >
> > >One of my biggest concerns is my personal domain account is my primary
> > >google account for my android devices.  It is trivial to move my email
> but
> > >I have concerns regarding losing access to my play store purchases
> (apps,
> > >movies, books) also will miss nice things like calendar and storage and
> > >chat. Google hasn't released many details on this change it seems like
> > most
> > >articles are just speculating.  If anyone has any good sources of info I
> > >would welcome them.
> >
> > All three of us also pay $28/year for additional storage (for photos).
> > So the google bill will be significant -- $365/year!!!
> >
> > Curiously, free gmail accounts can share their storage addon as a
> > "Family" -- something we can't do with domain accounts. So we'd only pay
> > $40/year for storage (200GB), rather than $28/user/year (100GBx3).
> >
> > As you said, moving email is easy (and honestly, calendar/contacts isn't
> > much harder).
> >
> > Losing app purchases sucks -- but rebuying is significantly less than a
> > one year bill from Google (and a lot of my app purchases are for EOL
> > apps anyway).  I never used their books or movies.
> >
> > My major, major hangup is photos. Ideally, I'd prefer to use something
> > more privacy-centric for photos, but I just can't get anything close to
> > the convenience of being able to search "Alexis Van" and getting a photo
> > of my wife with a "Mystery Machine" replica at a car show 10 years ago.
> >
> > There also doesn't seem to be a good way to move photos to another
> > account.  I just finished a Google Takeout of my photos (80GB) and will
> > try uploading that into a gmail account to test.
> >
> > >I don't have a problem paying for email and services but $42 /month is
> > >a little steep.
> >
> > Ditto. Personally I moved my email to fastmail a few years ago. Just me
> > (not the other two domains), and just email/contacts/calendar (I still
> > use my google account for android, photos, and apps, as mentioned
> > above).
> >
> > I settled on them because:
> >
> >      1. They work on open source (Cyrus IMAP) and are trying to get a new
> >      email spec adopted (JMAP). I've used the former, and the latter
> >      sounds interesting.
> >
> >      2. They support standard protocols -- IMAP, CalDAV, CardDAV, (and
> >      JMAP, if you want to count that).
> >
> >      3. They don't do ads, or free accounts (They do a free trial
> >      though).
> >
> >      4. They've been doing this longer than gmail existed.
> >
> > Their pricing isn't exactly stellar though. A basic account is
> > USD$30/year/user. I have more than 2GB of mail, so I'm paying
> > USD$50/year. That's a lot when you consider it's *just* email. But they
> > also only make their money from this, not from data mining and ads... So
> > pick your poison I guess.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Irwin
> >
> > email:   chris at chrisirwin.ca
> >   xmpp:   chris at chrisirwin.ca
> >    web: https://chrisirwin.ca
> >
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