<div dir="ltr">My friend Luc suggested fastmail, I just started a free trial and I'm really liking it so far. I've moved 3 domains MX records so far. <div><br></div><div>It's going to be $5 per month or $50 per year and it looks like it handles multiple domains much nicer than my gmail setup did.<div><br></div><div>His referral code is <a href="https://ref.fm/u26025096">https://ref.fm/u26025096</a> -- I accidentally signed up without using his referral. 😅</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:33 AM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
John was posting from the wrong address but has a good contribution.<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:48:45 -0500<br>
From: John <<a href="mailto:john@jskw.ca" target="_blank">john@jskw.ca</a>><br>
To: KWLUG discussion <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>><br>
Cc: Chris Irwin <<a href="mailto:chris@chrisirwin.ca" target="_blank">chris@chrisirwin.ca</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] G Suite Free not free anymore<br>
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I'm in the same boat. Been using it since 2009. I have a postfix setup but<br>
I don't want to move their because email is the kind of thing that I want<br>
to have a good uptime for.<br>
<br>
GSuite seems a little pricey. So I'm going to be shopping around for<br>
alternatives.<br>
<br>
My understanding is that my purchases made on YouTube and the app store<br>
should still be available through my GSuite credentials. Before the May<br>
deadline I'll switch my MX records away from the Google ones and my<br>
Gmail/docs/chat will stop working but I should still be able to sign into<br>
it on my phone for app/YouTube purchases. Would be nice if I could transfer<br>
them to a personal Gmail account though.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun., Jan. 23, 2022, 01:12 Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc, <<br>
<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:24:02PM -0500, Nickle, Brian wrote:<br>
> >I have used Google Apps pretty much since their inception to host my<br>
> >personal domain email. However as of May Google will not allow free<br>
> >hosting and wants me to pay $7.80/month/user (i have 6). I'm not really<br>
> >keen on self hosting email (too much upkeep). What I wonder is how are<br>
> >others hosting their domains and email these days?<br>
><br>
> Same here. I self-hosted before I moved in 2008, and switched to Google<br>
> Apps "temporarily" to avoid downtime. It turns out, I didn't miss self<br>
> hosting.<br>
><br>
> I'm dealing with three single-user domains, not three users on one<br>
> domain, because google only allowed the additional domains to be aliases<br>
> at the time, and that isn't what I wanted.<br>
><br>
> Since then, Android has come along, so that's the primary login for our<br>
> phones. So it's not "just" email now.<br>
><br>
> >One of my biggest concerns is my personal domain account is my primary<br>
> >google account for my android devices. It is trivial to move my email but<br>
> >I have concerns regarding losing access to my play store purchases (apps,<br>
> >movies, books) also will miss nice things like calendar and storage and<br>
> >chat. Google hasn't released many details on this change it seems like<br>
> most<br>
> >articles are just speculating. If anyone has any good sources of info I<br>
> >would welcome them.<br>
><br>
> All three of us also pay $28/year for additional storage (for photos).<br>
> So the google bill will be significant -- $365/year!!!<br>
><br>
> Curiously, free gmail accounts can share their storage addon as a<br>
> "Family" -- something we can't do with domain accounts. So we'd only pay<br>
> $40/year for storage (200GB), rather than $28/user/year (100GBx3).<br>
><br>
> As you said, moving email is easy (and honestly, calendar/contacts isn't<br>
> much harder).<br>
><br>
> Losing app purchases sucks -- but rebuying is significantly less than a<br>
> one year bill from Google (and a lot of my app purchases are for EOL<br>
> apps anyway). I never used their books or movies.<br>
><br>
> My major, major hangup is photos. Ideally, I'd prefer to use something<br>
> more privacy-centric for photos, but I just can't get anything close to<br>
> the convenience of being able to search "Alexis Van" and getting a photo<br>
> of my wife with a "Mystery Machine" replica at a car show 10 years ago.<br>
><br>
> There also doesn't seem to be a good way to move photos to another<br>
> account. I just finished a Google Takeout of my photos (80GB) and will<br>
> try uploading that into a gmail account to test.<br>
><br>
> >I don't have a problem paying for email and services but $42 /month is<br>
> >a little steep.<br>
><br>
> Ditto. Personally I moved my email to fastmail a few years ago. Just me<br>
> (not the other two domains), and just email/contacts/calendar (I still<br>
> use my google account for android, photos, and apps, as mentioned<br>
> above).<br>
><br>
> I settled on them because:<br>
><br>
> 1. They work on open source (Cyrus IMAP) and are trying to get a new<br>
> email spec adopted (JMAP). I've used the former, and the latter<br>
> sounds interesting.<br>
><br>
> 2. They support standard protocols -- IMAP, CalDAV, CardDAV, (and<br>
> JMAP, if you want to count that).<br>
><br>
> 3. They don't do ads, or free accounts (They do a free trial<br>
> though).<br>
><br>
> 4. They've been doing this longer than gmail existed.<br>
><br>
> Their pricing isn't exactly stellar though. A basic account is<br>
> USD$30/year/user. I have more than 2GB of mail, so I'm paying<br>
> USD$50/year. That's a lot when you consider it's *just* email. But they<br>
> also only make their money from this, not from data mining and ads... So<br>
> pick your poison I guess.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Chris Irwin<br>
><br>
> email: <a href="mailto:chris@chrisirwin.ca" target="_blank">chris@chrisirwin.ca</a><br>
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