[kwlug-disc] sadness in Ubuntu land

[CrankyOldBugger]

I'll say one thing for the new Ubuntu, the new RDP (with legacy VNC) option
is certainly speedier than the old way.

And no longer needing the Dash-to-dock extension (now built-in, sort of) is
good too.

The Snaps ecosystem aside, I don't find 22.04 to be too bad at all.  The
new GNOME Extensions app seems to cover what we lose when using FF for
GNOME extensions, so no big loss there.

And for the first time in a long time, the Ubuntu upgrade app worked
without any issues on my laptop.  Usually I have to do a wipe and load.



On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 4:44 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> I saw that article last week, but I don't understand why the PPA is needed.
>
> Here is my context:
> * I re-installed my laptop with Ubuntu (v21.10), maybe 2 months ago
> * installed various firefox extensions from apt including the Gnome
> extension helper:
>    - webext-browserpass
>    - webext-privacy-badger
>    - webext-ublock-origin-firefox
>    - chrome-gnome-shell
> * then I noticed some inconsistent behaviour in Firefox configuration,
>    and realized that there were now 2 copies of Firefox installed
>    - snap version, which has been installed by default
>    - deb version, which was installed as a dependency from the webext-*
>      packages
>
> After I realized this I remove the snap version, `snap remove firefox`,
> and everything seems to be working as expected. Including that the apt
> installed browser could communicated with the local helpers needed for
> the Gnome and browserpass addons.
>
> Tada? I guess...
>
> It was a bit confusing, but now it seems to be working, including
> surviving automatic updates.
>
> Hopefully, this is a helpful data point. :)
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On 2022-04-24 16:12, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> > Seems like we're not the only ones concerned about FF as a Snap:
> >
> >
> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
> > <
> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
> >
> >
> > OMGUbuntu takes a more in-depth look at how to fix this.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 12:41 AM Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc
> > <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     __
> >     On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, at 00:23, Chris Frey wrote:
> >>     Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> >>     requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> >>     distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> >>     or been moved out of Incoming.
> >>     The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >>
> >>     The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >>     firefox : PreDepends: snapd but it is not going to be installed
> >>     E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> >
> >     It may be as simple as Ubuntu's (snap-installing) deb has a slightly
> >     higher version that the one from the third-party repo, rather than a
> >     malicious modification to apt itself. You should be able to use apt
> >     pinning to say `firefox` should only be installed from a specific
> >     repo. This might also prevent the dependency warning message.
> >
> >     A mocked-up /etc/apt/preferences.d/mozillateam:
> >
> >          Package: firefox
> >          Pin release o=mozillateam
> >          Pin-Priority: -10
> >
> >     However, I don't actually have an Ubuntu machine to test, so you may
> >     need to adjust that. I got this from the following URLs:
> >
> >        1.
> >
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get
> >     <
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get
> >
> >        2. https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences
> >     <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences>
> >
> >     If you're looking for alternative distros, Fedora is nice. I
> >     switched from Ubuntu about 10 years ago now, and have been very
> happy.
> >
> >     If you're just trying to avoid the startup issues associated with
> >     snap, the flatpak firefox from flathub works well. It's provided by
> >     Mozilla, and is indistinguishable from the native firefox. I have it
> >     installed for troubleshooting and honestly have few issues with it.
> >
> >     --
> >     *Chris Irwin*
> >
> >     email: chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>
> >        web: https://chrisirwin.ca <https://chrisirwin.ca>
> >
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