<div dir="ltr"><div>I'll say one thing for the new Ubuntu, the new RDP (with legacy VNC) option is certainly speedier than the old way. <br></div><div><br></div><div>And no longer needing the Dash-to-dock extension (now built-in, sort of) is good too.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The Snaps ecosystem aside, I don't find 22.04 to be too bad at all. The new GNOME Extensions app seems to cover what we lose when using FF for GNOME extensions, so no big loss there.</div><div><br></div><div>And for the first time in a long time, the Ubuntu upgrade app worked without any issues on my laptop. Usually I have to do a wipe and load. <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 4:44 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <<a href="mailto:acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca">acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I saw that article last week, but I don't understand why the PPA is needed.<br>
<br>
Here is my context:<br>
* I re-installed my laptop with Ubuntu (v21.10), maybe 2 months ago<br>
* installed various firefox extensions from apt including the Gnome <br>
extension helper:<br>
- webext-browserpass<br>
- webext-privacy-badger<br>
- webext-ublock-origin-firefox<br>
- chrome-gnome-shell<br>
* then I noticed some inconsistent behaviour in Firefox configuration,<br>
and realized that there were now 2 copies of Firefox installed<br>
- snap version, which has been installed by default<br>
- deb version, which was installed as a dependency from the webext-*<br>
packages<br>
<br>
After I realized this I remove the snap version, `snap remove firefox`, <br>
and everything seems to be working as expected. Including that the apt <br>
installed browser could communicated with the local helpers needed for <br>
the Gnome and browserpass addons.<br>
<br>
Tada? I guess...<br>
<br>
It was a bit confusing, but now it seems to be working, including <br>
surviving automatic updates.<br>
<br>
Hopefully, this is a helpful data point. :)<br>
<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2022-04-24 16:12, CrankyOldBugger wrote:<br>
> Seems like we're not the only ones concerned about FF as a Snap:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04</a> <br>
> <<a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04</a>><br>
> <br>
> OMGUbuntu takes a more in-depth look at how to fix this.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 12:41 AM Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc <br>
> <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> __<br>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, at 00:23, Chris Frey wrote:<br>
>> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have<br>
>> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable<br>
>> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created<br>
>> or been moved out of Incoming.<br>
>> The following information may help to resolve the situation:<br>
>><br>
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:<br>
>> firefox : PreDepends: snapd but it is not going to be installed<br>
>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.<br>
> <br>
> It may be as simple as Ubuntu's (snap-installing) deb has a slightly<br>
> higher version that the one from the third-party repo, rather than a<br>
> malicious modification to apt itself. You should be able to use apt<br>
> pinning to say `firefox` should only be installed from a specific<br>
> repo. This might also prevent the dependency warning message.<br>
> <br>
> A mocked-up /etc/apt/preferences.d/mozillateam:<br>
> <br>
> Package: firefox<br>
> Pin release o=mozillateam<br>
> Pin-Priority: -10<br>
> <br>
> However, I don't actually have an Ubuntu machine to test, so you may<br>
> need to adjust that. I got this from the following URLs:<br>
> <br>
> 1.<br>
> <a href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get</a><br>
> <<a href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get</a>><br>
> 2. <a href="https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences</a><br>
> <<a href="https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences</a>><br>
> <br>
> If you're looking for alternative distros, Fedora is nice. I<br>
> switched from Ubuntu about 10 years ago now, and have been very happy.<br>
> <br>
> If you're just trying to avoid the startup issues associated with<br>
> snap, the flatpak firefox from flathub works well. It's provided by<br>
> Mozilla, and is indistinguishable from the native firefox. I have it<br>
> installed for troubleshooting and honestly have few issues with it.<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> *Chris Irwin*<br>
> <br>
> email: <a href="mailto:chris@chrisirwin.ca" target="_blank">chris@chrisirwin.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chris@chrisirwin.ca" target="_blank">chris@chrisirwin.ca</a>><br>
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