[kwlug-disc] Ubuntu 17.10

[Ron Singh]

I do have Debian 9(Cinnamon DE) on a desktop at work, being a Linux
freshman, I am having some challenges, setting up remote, setting up shares
and the like, but so far, Debian 9 has not crashed on me, their site is
challenging for me to work with, but am getting there. Fedora 27 is
something I wanted to play with, but mebbe it's my brain, but man, I find
that distro real hard to navigate and especially, tailor. Fun playing
around with them though.

Oh, another thing, from a CPU/RAM utilization standpoint, even the Mint
18.3 Cinnamon instance had one the lowest of the lot, LM 18.1 Xfce was the
lowest.
Zorin was the worse. I would imagine that Lubuntu(LXDE) would be the
slimmest and possibly the most reliable, but that DE is not to my liking at
all, sort of like a Mac from the 80s...




Thanks,

Ron Singh


On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:40 AM, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Thanks, Ron.  I've been keeping Mint on my short list for replacement
> distro.  Still thinking about what I want to do to my main box, though.
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 11:35 Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @crankyoldbugger, you know, I spent 2 months trying every offering from
>> Ubuntu from 14.04 to 17.04, with every single one of their DEs, Debian
>> 9(Mate/Xfce/Gnome DEs), OpenSUSE, Kali, Zorin, Solus, Elementary, Mint. All
>> were loaded as a bare-metal install to remove any VM bias, took a long
>> time.
>>
>> I settled on Mint 18.1 Xfce for my daily drivers, and Mint 18.3
>> Cinnamon(reverted to a 4.4.0.104 Kernel(LTS) from the 4.10 Kernel it ships
>> with) for my media playback laptops.
>> I did this out of a burning desire for the most rock-solid Linux
>> experience I could get.
>>
>> Mint 18.1 is the most solid(with the 4.4.0.xxx kernel), the Xfce DE is
>> the most intuitive and transparent of the lot, at least to me.
>> KDE(Plasma) was a horrid experience, Gnome3, pretty much the same with
>> those uber-annoying task bars on the screen, which I know can be modified,
>> but straight out of the box, too much stuff is hidden and coming from an
>> XP/W7 environment, too jarring and well, it slowed me down and provided
>> zero value-add.
>>
>> With Mint, I really appreciate like the ability to have total control
>> over what gets updated, the delivery of information via the changelogs on
>> each app update/system update is excellent and one can make a personal
>> judgement on the value of any given update. I do security updates on all
>> userspace apps, I do security updates on system apps after reviewing the
>> changelogs(not that hard and pretty quick to deal with) and I do
>> kernel/driver updates every 3 months. I often go to www.kernel.org just
>> to see what those gods have to say in their changelogs on the kernel.
>>
>> My "messing around" laptop is running LM 18.3 Xfce with the 4.14 kernel
>> which I grabbed from Ubuntu's repo and this far, no surprises, but I would
>> not commit it to a production PC. For my money, you want to work and not
>> mess with load/reload of an OS, stick with LM 18.1 Xfce, you will be real
>> happy. This is from a new-ish user(1 year) of Linux, so take it for what it
>> is:-)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ron Singh
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:03 AM, CrankyOldBugger <
>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a general question...  but for those of you who are using the
>>> latest Ubuntu 17.10 (where GNOME replaced Unity), how are you getting along
>>> with it?  Is it working stable for you?
>>>
>>> I've had nothing but bad luck with the 17.10 release.  So bad that all
>>> but one of my machines got switched over to Fedora instead of Ubuntu, and
>>> my main desktop is staying at Ubuntu 17.04 until either 18.04 comes out and
>>> is shown to work well, or I find another distro like Mint or Fedora or
>>> Kali.  Currently that 17.04 machine is out of support now so I can't even
>>> get security updates.  Not a happy place.
>>>
>>> The machines that got switched over to Fedora 27 have been running like
>>> a charm.
>>>
>>> And before you ask.. it hasn't been just one problem, it's been a
>>> variety of problems for each of the machines I tried installing it on.  And
>>> running 17.10 in a VM at work has been disappointing as well.
>>>
>>> Is it just me, or are other people getting disillusioned with Ubuntu's
>>> return to GNOME in 17.10?
>>>
>>>
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