<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I do have Debian 9(Cinnamon DE) on a desktop at work, being a Linux freshman, I am having some challenges, setting up remote, setting up shares and the like, but so far, Debian 9 has not crashed on me, their site is challenging for me to work with, but am getting there. Fedora 27 is something I wanted to play with, but mebbe it's my brain, but man, I find that distro real hard to navigate and especially, tailor. Fun playing around with them though.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Oh, another thing, from a CPU/RAM utilization standpoint, even the Mint 18.3 Cinnamon instance had one the lowest of the lot, LM 18.1 Xfce was the lowest. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Zorin was the worse. I would imagine that Lubuntu(LXDE) would be the slimmest and possibly the most reliable, but that DE is not to my liking at all, sort of like a Mac from the 80s...<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:40 AM, CrankyOldBugger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Ron. I've been keeping Mint on my short list for replacement distro. Still thinking about what I want to do to my main box, though. <div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 11:35 Ron Singh <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">@<span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go">crankyoldbugger, you know, I spent 2 months trying every offering from Ubuntu from 14.04 to 17.04, with every single one of their DEs, Debian 9(Mate/Xfce/Gnome DEs), OpenSUSE, Kali, Zorin, Solus, Elementary, Mint. All were loaded as a bare-metal install to remove any VM bias, took a long time. <br><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go">I settled on Mint 18.1 Xfce for my daily drivers, and Mint 18.3 Cinnamon(reverted to a 4.4.0.104 Kernel(LTS) from the 4.10 Kernel it ships with) for my media playback laptops.<br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go">I did this out of a burning desire for the most rock-solid Linux experience I could get.<br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go"><br>Mint 18.1 is the most solid(with the 4.4.0.xxx kernel), the Xfce DE is the most intuitive and transparent of the lot, at least to me. <br>KDE(Plasma) was a horrid experience, Gnome3, pretty much the same with those uber-annoying task bars on the screen, which I know can be modified, but straight out of the box, too much stuff is hidden and coming from an XP/W7 environment, too jarring and well, it slowed me down and provided zero value-add. <br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go">With Mint, I really appreciate like the ability to have total control over what gets updated, the delivery of information via the changelogs on each app update/system update is excellent and one can make a personal judgement on the value of any given update. I do security updates on all userspace apps, I do security updates on system apps after reviewing the changelogs(not that hard and pretty quick to deal with) and I do kernel/driver updates every 3 months. I often go to <a href="http://www.kernel.org" target="_blank">www.kernel.org</a> just to see what those gods have to say in their changelogs on the kernel.<br><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go">My "messing around" laptop is running LM 18.3 Xfce with the 4.14 kernel which I grabbed from Ubuntu's repo and this far, no surprises, but I would not commit it to a production PC. For my money, you want to work and not mess with load/reload of an OS, stick with LM 18.1 Xfce, you will be real happy. This is from a new-ish user(1 year) of Linux, so take it for what it is:-)<br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail-go"> <br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-1344768580593878309m_7724127409924721512gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:03 AM, CrankyOldBugger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just a general question... but for those of you who are using the latest Ubuntu 17.10 (where GNOME replaced Unity), how are you getting along with it? Is it working stable for you?<div><br></div><div>I've had nothing but bad luck with the 17.10 release. So bad that all but one of my machines got switched over to Fedora instead of Ubuntu, and my main desktop is staying at Ubuntu 17.04 until either 18.04 comes out and is shown to work well, or I find another distro like Mint or Fedora or Kali. Currently that 17.04 machine is out of support now so I can't even get security updates. Not a happy place.</div><div><br></div><div>The machines that got switched over to Fedora 27 have been running like a charm.</div><div><br></div><div>And before you ask.. it hasn't been just one problem, it's been a variety of problems for each of the machines I tried installing it on. And running 17.10 in a VM at work has been disappointing as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Is it just me, or are other people getting disillusioned with Ubuntu's return to GNOME in 17.10?</div><div><br></div></div>
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