[kwlug-disc] Ubuntu 17.10

[CrankyOldBugger]

Thanks, Ron.  I've been keeping Mint on my short list for replacement
distro.  Still thinking about what I want to do to my main box, though.


On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 11:35 Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:

> @crankyoldbugger, you know, I spent 2 months trying every offering from
> Ubuntu from 14.04 to 17.04, with every single one of their DEs, Debian
> 9(Mate/Xfce/Gnome DEs), OpenSUSE, Kali, Zorin, Solus, Elementary, Mint. All
> were loaded as a bare-metal install to remove any VM bias, took a long
> time.
>
> I settled on Mint 18.1 Xfce for my daily drivers, and Mint 18.3
> Cinnamon(reverted to a 4.4.0.104 Kernel(LTS) from the 4.10 Kernel it ships
> with) for my media playback laptops.
> I did this out of a burning desire for the most rock-solid Linux
> experience I could get.
>
> Mint 18.1 is the most solid(with the 4.4.0.xxx kernel), the Xfce DE is the
> most intuitive and transparent of the lot, at least to me.
> KDE(Plasma) was a horrid experience, Gnome3, pretty much the same with
> those uber-annoying task bars on the screen, which I know can be modified,
> but straight out of the box, too much stuff is hidden and coming from an
> XP/W7 environment, too jarring and well, it slowed me down and provided
> zero value-add.
>
> With Mint, I really appreciate like the ability to have total control over
> what gets updated, the delivery of information via the changelogs on each
> app update/system update is excellent and one can make a personal judgement
> on the value of any given update. I do security updates on all userspace
> apps, I do security updates on system apps after reviewing the
> changelogs(not that hard and pretty quick to deal with) and I do
> kernel/driver updates every 3 months. I often go to www.kernel.org just
> to see what those gods have to say in their changelogs on the kernel.
>
> My "messing around" laptop is running LM 18.3 Xfce with the 4.14 kernel
> which I grabbed from Ubuntu's repo and this far, no surprises, but I would
> not commit it to a production PC. For my money, you want to work and not
> mess with load/reload of an OS, stick with LM 18.1 Xfce, you will be real
> happy. This is from a new-ish user(1 year) of Linux, so take it for what it
> is:-)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Singh
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:03 AM, CrankyOldBugger <
> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just a general question...  but for those of you who are using the latest
>> Ubuntu 17.10 (where GNOME replaced Unity), how are you getting along with
>> it?  Is it working stable for you?
>>
>> I've had nothing but bad luck with the 17.10 release.  So bad that all
>> but one of my machines got switched over to Fedora instead of Ubuntu, and
>> my main desktop is staying at Ubuntu 17.04 until either 18.04 comes out and
>> is shown to work well, or I find another distro like Mint or Fedora or
>> Kali.  Currently that 17.04 machine is out of support now so I can't even
>> get security updates.  Not a happy place.
>>
>> The machines that got switched over to Fedora 27 have been running like a
>> charm.
>>
>> And before you ask.. it hasn't been just one problem, it's been a variety
>> of problems for each of the machines I tried installing it on.  And running
>> 17.10 in a VM at work has been disappointing as well.
>>
>> Is it just me, or are other people getting disillusioned with Ubuntu's
>> return to GNOME in 17.10?
>>
>>
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