[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies

James Kelsh freshmeadow1 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 22 09:07:12 EST 2018


I agree. And my talk is in March. Got mixed up last night!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
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> James Kelsh wrote:
>> My little talk in February seems redundant now
> 
> Hardly. There's nothing like a live demonstrations where you can ask
> about things as they happen.
> 
> Looking forward to it.
> 
> - --Bob.
> 
>> On 2018-01-21 08:07 PM, James Kelsh wrote:
>> My little talk in February seems redundant now 🤔 but I am doing
>> it anyway!!! 😜
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant 
>>> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On the topic of money and getting started with Linux I just saw
>>> a tweet from Marcel Gagné that he has started a Patreon to
>>> support his linux video tutorial efforts: * 
>>> https://www.patreon.com/marcelgagne
>>> 
>>> His videos are online at a few places and cover a range of 
>>> topics: * http://cookingwithlinux.com/ * 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/freethinkeratlarge
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>>> On 20/01/18 01:57, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote: (I
>>>> thought I sent this already, but I guess not. Apologies if it
>>>> is a duplicate.)
>>>> 
>>>> That is a generous offer.
>>>> 
>>>> There may be a call for people to help KWLUG financially if we 
>>>> cannot get a free meeting space for our new home.
>>>> 
>>>> There are also other items that I have been thinking about 
>>>> fundraising for. It would be nice to get a better projector, 
>>>> for example.
>>>> 
>>>> But none of this directly relates to your offer. I think that 
>>>> if you as an individual was to arrange for some KWLUG speakers 
>>>> then that could work, but it would be you who makes the 
>>>> financial arrangements (because as Chamunks noted KWLUG does 
>>>> not officially exist). Once you have somebody arranged I (or 
>>>> another organizer) can slot that presenter in.
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind that in addition to finding people who know how
>>>> to do Linux administration, we would want to bring in people
>>>> who also have skills at doing presentations for others. Robert 
>>>> Elder might qualify for this, but I think arbitrary people on 
>>>> UpWork would need more vetting.
>>>> 
>>>> Having said that, I think there are MANY people on this list 
>>>> who have the knowledge and talent to offer some really good 
>>>> newbie training, either during meetings or as a separate
>>>> event. I would love to see a few more offers from people
>>>> willing to present Linux basics.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that getting newbies out to meetings is a challenge. 
>>>> Sometimes people come for a few sessions, and then leave 
>>>> because the talks people are willing to offer are at too high
>>>> a technical level (or maybe we are unfriendly in other ways).
>>>> 
>>>> John got us started on a list of topics, but it is not clear
>>>> to me which ones are in demand, or are most useful in 2018.
>>>> 
>>>> I am guessing these will be incorporated into regular KWLUG 
>>>> meetings, as opposed to being separate events?
>>>> 
>>>> - Paul
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:14:00AM -0500, Ron Singh wrote: 
>>>>> Here's my 2 cents, not sure how it will be received.
>>>>> 
>>>>> See, I value what I have gained thus from the KWLUG meets I 
>>>>> have attended, the topics discussed on the mailing list, and 
>>>>> tangentially, the information gleaned from a single(so far) 
>>>>> KWVoip meetup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the spirit of giving back, I am able to pony up to $50 per
>>>>> session(month?) to someone from outside of KWLUG, or $400/yr
>>>>> to KWLUG towards expenses(essentially a sponsorship). I can
>>>>> also support KWLUG via donations of older(but not *old*)
>>>>> computer hardware as it becomes available to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the $50/session thing does not contradict the spirit of 
>>>>> KWLUG, I would like to make contact with a few individuals 
>>>>> here -- 
>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/local/canada/ontario/waterloo/linux-system-administration/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
> and see if they would be amenable to doing a 60-minute segment for newbies
>>>>> and live with a mere $50(or less) fee for the talk and
>>>>> travel time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see a couple of UPWORK low-cost younglings here and here: 
>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01be403b78b96c7860/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01ae67e5ea9c1e9763/
>>>>> 
>>>>> and a more seasoned UPWORK dude here: 
>>>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~015d41ca163d109259/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
> How about Robert Elder?
>>>>> http://blog.robertelder.org/robert-elder-software-linux-operating-system/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
> He is quite the CLI guy.
>>>>> I attended one of his meetings on SSH where I got about 30% 
>>>>> of the ideas and logic being discussed. Should I contact him 
>>>>> on behald of KWLUG to see if he is willing to do a talk on 
>>>>> CLI commands. He is definitely not a GUI guy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alternatively, I donate a year's worth of sessions to KWLUG 
>>>>> and everyone chimes in with suggestions/contact they have to 
>>>>> do talks for newbies. I see one big challenge though and
>>>>> that is how to grab all the newbies by the scruff and drag
>>>>> them into the KWLUG meetings to benefir from the newbie
>>>>> sessions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am just throwing this out there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ron Singh "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>>>> 
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