[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies

[James Kelsh]

My little talk in February seems redundant now 🤔 but I am doing it anyway!!! 😜

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> On Jan 21, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> 
> On the topic of money and getting started with Linux I just saw a tweet
> from Marcel Gagné that he has started a Patreon to support his linux
> video tutorial efforts:
> * https://www.patreon.com/marcelgagne
> 
> His videos are online at a few places and cover a range of topics:
> * http://cookingwithlinux.com/
> * https://www.youtube.com/user/freethinkeratlarge
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 20/01/18 01:57, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:
>> (I thought I sent this already, but I guess not. Apologies if it is a
>> duplicate.)
>> 
>> That is a generous offer. 
>> 
>> There may be a call for people to help KWLUG financially if we cannot
>> get a free meeting space for our new home. 
>> 
>> There are also other items that I have been thinking about
>> fundraising for. It would be nice to get a better projector, for
>> example. 
>> 
>> But none of this directly relates to your offer. I think that if you
>> as an individual was to arrange for some KWLUG speakers then that
>> could work, but it would be you who makes the financial arrangements
>> (because as Chamunks noted KWLUG does not officially exist).
>> Once you have somebody arranged I (or another organizer) can slot that
>> presenter in. 
>> 
>> Keep in mind that in addition to finding people who know how to do
>> Linux administration, we would want to bring in people who also have
>> skills at doing presentations for others. Robert Elder might qualify
>> for this, but I think arbitrary people on UpWork would need more
>> vetting.
>> 
>> Having said that, I think there are MANY people on this list who have
>> the knowledge and talent to offer some really good newbie training,
>> either during meetings or as a separate event. I would love to see a
>> few more offers from people willing to present Linux basics. 
>> 
>> I agree that getting newbies out to meetings is a challenge. Sometimes
>> people come for a few sessions, and then leave because the talks
>> people are willing to offer are at too high a technical level (or
>> maybe we are unfriendly in other ways). 
>> 
>> John got us started on a list of topics, but it is not clear to me
>> which ones are in demand, or are most useful in 2018.
>> 
>> I am guessing these will be incorporated into regular KWLUG meetings,
>> as opposed to being separate events?
>> 
>> - Paul
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:14:00AM -0500, Ron Singh wrote:
>>> Here's my 2 cents, not sure how it will be received.
>>> 
>>> See, I value what I have gained thus from the KWLUG meets I have attended,
>>> the topics discussed on the mailing list, and tangentially, the information
>>> gleaned from a single(so far) KWVoip meetup.
>>> 
>>> In the spirit of giving back, I am able to pony up to $50 per
>>> session(month?) to someone from outside of KWLUG, or $400/yr to KWLUG
>>> towards expenses(essentially a sponsorship). I can also support KWLUG via
>>> donations of older(but not *old*) computer hardware as it becomes available
>>> to me.
>>> 
>>> If the $50/session thing does not contradict the spirit of KWLUG, I would
>>> like to make contact with a few individuals here --
>>> https://www.upwork.com/local/canada/ontario/waterloo/linux-system-administration/
>>> and see if they would be amenable to doing a 60-minute segment for newbies
>>> and live with a mere $50(or less) fee for the talk and travel time.
>>> 
>>> I see a couple of UPWORK low-cost younglings here and here:
>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01be403b78b96c7860/
>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01ae67e5ea9c1e9763/
>>> 
>>> and a more seasoned UPWORK dude here:
>>> https://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~015d41ca163d109259/
>>> 
>>> How about Robert Elder?
>>> http://blog.robertelder.org/robert-elder-software-linux-operating-system/
>>> He is quite the CLI guy.
>>> I attended one of his meetings on SSH where I got about 30% of the ideas
>>> and logic being discussed. Should I contact him on behald of KWLUG to see
>>> if he is willing to do a talk on CLI commands. He is definitely not a GUI
>>> guy.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, I donate a year's worth of sessions to KWLUG and everyone
>>> chimes in with suggestions/contact they have to do talks for newbies.
>>> I see one big challenge though and that is how to grab all the newbies by
>>> the scruff and drag them into the KWLUG meetings to benefir from the newbie
>>> sessions.
>>> 
>>> I am just throwing this out there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ron Singh
>>> "in transit, via mobile comm device"
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