[kwlug-disc] Canadian hosted email providers

[Bob Jonkman]

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I believe that KWLUG is one of the recipients of Mark's generosity.

Mark, what kind of hosted e-mail services *do* you provide?
Calendaring/Scheduling? "Corporate" e-mail? Backups? DNS provisioning,
including SPF and its ilk?

- --Bob.


On 2017-02-15 09:26 AM, Mark Steffen wrote:
>> I suspect that the requirements of non-profit (or even no-money)
>> and off-site Canadian hosting are incompatible.
> 
> Just as an FYI- I'm happy to offer hosting resources for in-need 
> non-profits/service groups at no charge (though reciprocal link or 
> something on their website would certainly be appreciated it
> wouldn't be a condition), and my racks are at a local datacentre in
> Kitchener.  I don't have a formal policy on it so requests are
> reviewed on a case by case basis (for example, some non-profits pay
> their executives six figure salaries; these non-profits can afford
> to pay for their hosting :-)
> 
> *Mark Steffen* Office Direct: +1.226.476.1240 | Mobile/WhatsApp:
> +1.226.600.0464 *"Don't believe everything you read on the
> Internet." -Abraham Lincoln*
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Paul comments:
>>>> I find it hard to believe that nobody else on the list runs
>>>> into these kinds of Canadian hosting requirements.
> 
> Any place I've worked that had such a requirement was large enough
> to be able to afford infrastructure and dedicated staff to host
> the e-mail themselves.
> 
> I suspect that the requirements of non-profit (or even no-money)
> and off-site Canadian hosting are incompatible.
> 
> --Bob.
> 
> 
> On 2017-02-15 01:09 AM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As others have noted, the goal is to get email as a service,
>>>> not get raw resources with which somebody (not me!) can
>>>> babysit an email server themselves.
>>>> 
>>>> I find it hard to believe that nobody else on the list runs
>>>> into these kinds of Canadian hosting requirements.
>>>> 
>>>> - Paul
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 02:28:25AM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>>>>> There are ways to get email to not bounce you just need to
>>>>> do a literal tonne of reading. The things that I don't
>>>>> understand is why you always need so many services to get
>>>>> email going in the first place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a good solution I found called mail in a box 
>>>>> https://mailinabox.email/ but it forces you to run your own
>>>>> DNS server which I'm not okay with that's too risky running
>>>>> your own DNS in my mind I would prefer it to let me have
>>>>> the option to use Cloudflare or something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017, 4:54 PM Mark Steffen 
>>>>> <rmarksteffen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul, I can get you a dedicated server or VM/VPS for the 
>>>>>> working centre. Feel free to message me off-list if
>>>>>> interested. Hosted in town.
> 
> 
> Paul Nijjar paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca Tue Feb 14 14:38:14 EST 2017
>>>> Are there any good, reliable Canadian email providers that
>>>> host their machines (physical and/or virtual) on Canadian
>>>> soil? (I understand that this is no guarantee that traffic is
>>>> not routed through the USA.)
>>>> 
>>>> This is for a nonprofit (not The Working Centre) that
>>>> currently hosts its mail through Google. No doubt gratis is
>>>> preferable for them, but I think paid ought to be an option
>>>> as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Although my 1998 self would punch me in the face for saying
>>>> this, I suggested that the gratis nonprofit tier of Office
>>>> 365 might be a good fit. This is effectively hosted Exchange,
>>>> and supposedly you can request that Microsoft only use
>>>> Canadian data centres for your data. This is the standard
>>>> that I would like to beat.
>>>> 
>>>> - Paul
>>>> 
>>>> -- http://pnijjar.freeshell.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
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