[kwlug-disc] Secure IM news

[Chamunks]

Still sounds really nice but doesn't address the main issue that no one
will want to install a battery drain.  Which is the reason they went with a
push architecture.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:20 PM Jason Locklin <locklin.jason at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The nice thing about a federated system is that p2p is just a special
> case, and one can become the other when the hardware makes it realistic.
> The chatsecure guys were talking about this a while back where they
> suggested that every device could be its own xmpp server, perhaps using tor
> for persistent routing and privacy.
>
> On November 26, 2016 3:54:07 PM EST, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> >A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based on
> >something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work;
> >
> >This would be ideal except on mobile battery is at a premium so good
> >luck
> >telling people they need to contribute cycles to a dht
> >
> >On Sat, Nov 26, 2016, 1:24 PM Nick Guenther <nguenthe at uwaterloo.ca>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 26 novembre 2016 12:25:40 HNE, "B. S." <bs27975 at gmail.com> a écrit
> >:
> >> >> it would be ideal that we try and find a system that they can't
> >have
> >> >> one centralized location to squat in and collect our metadata.
> >> >
> >> >Does that not exist already in Tor?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Only if all the servers you use are .onion hidden services. If you go
> >from
> >> exit nodes to talk.google.com you made as little progress as using
> >Tor to
> >> access Facebook.
> >> A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based
> >on
> >> something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work; this was
> >tox's
> >> idea, but I do not trust their code quality one bit; maybe they've
> >gotten
> >> better in the years since their founding.
> >>
> >>
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