[kwlug-disc] Secure IM news

[Jason Locklin]

The nice thing about a federated system is that p2p is just a special case, and one can become the other when the hardware makes it realistic. The chatsecure guys were talking about this a while back where they suggested that every device could be its own xmpp server, perhaps using tor for persistent routing and privacy. 

On November 26, 2016 3:54:07 PM EST, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based on
>something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work;
>
>This would be ideal except on mobile battery is at a premium so good
>luck
>telling people they need to contribute cycles to a dht
>
>On Sat, Nov 26, 2016, 1:24 PM Nick Guenther <nguenthe at uwaterloo.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 26 novembre 2016 12:25:40 HNE, "B. S." <bs27975 at gmail.com> a écrit
>:
>> >> it would be ideal that we try and find a system that they can't
>have
>> >> one centralized location to squat in and collect our metadata.
>> >
>> >Does that not exist already in Tor?
>> >
>>
>> Only if all the servers you use are .onion hidden services. If you go
>from
>> exit nodes to talk.google.com you made as little progress as using
>Tor to
>> access Facebook.
>> A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based
>on
>> something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work; this was
>tox's
>> idea, but I do not trust their code quality one bit; maybe they've
>gotten
>> better in the years since their founding.
>>
>>
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