[kwlug-disc] Kubuntu going away?

B. S. bs27975 at yahoo.ca
Sat Jun 27 11:15:55 EDT 2015


Yes.

You have installed KDE on top of Ubuntu. Could do the same on top of Debian, for that matter.

You could also have installed a different kde-base to get more/less than just plasma. (Some time ago, I used to be able to find the list of kde-base things, to load, say, a kde minimal plus kde tools plus kde admin tools, but haven't for a while. Last time I was reduced to looking at the repositories to try to figure out what's what. 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE is close, but it seems to me there were a few more choices last time I looked. Perhaps buried within these sub-packages, now.)
BUT ... you don't get the kubuntu look and feel / theming (aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, for that), and you don't get the kubuntu repositories. Do either matter? Personal preference.

You probably also don't get other default kde things that kubuntu, in it's infinite wisdom being kde expert aware. (K/ubuntu has always seemed to me to be 'real' users bundling into the defaults extras beyond bare gnome/kde that practical users have found practically useful. Much like your point long ago that Ubuntu is more current hardware aware than Debian, so preferred Ubuntu over Debian.)


I've done both. But gone back to installing Kubuntu proper as inevitably I end up in dll (repository) hell with conflicting dependencies as I install things like tools, then admin tools, then find one won't install for conflicting / not yet updated version in one package but not yet another. Which seems to be a K/Ubuntu repository thing, not a kde thing. Think back to your problems getting Skype / Wine to go. I've also tried kde full intending to strip out some of the extraneous fluff, but that was even worse. (Trying to get rid of akonadi, strigi, et al, is just BS.)

Kubuntu as a whole, just seems to hang together better / more consistently user interface wise across apps, so inevitably I end up going back to doing it that way. Easy example is last time I went nuts until I gave up on LightDM and went back to kwin or whatever the KDE version is. Things started working again, and I noticed no performance penalty / loss from nixing LightDM.

It will be interesting to see if you come to agree with all this or not, over time, based upon your experience with this install.

In the end, KDE is KDE, and how you have done it will always work. (But you might do yourself a favour in a few months when everything is stable to your liking - apt out your package list ... remembering all the other ancillary kde things you installed or removed, later, is just a PITA. Last time I ran a installed package diff between the new install and the old, and at least had a short list of all my other favourite goodies to add to the new default install.)

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> From: Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com>
>To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:48 AM
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>So my question is: can I still do this if Kubuntu dies away?





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