[kwlug-disc] Truecrypt

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Fri May 30 13:55:13 EDT 2014


To add to what Bob said...  our experience at work is that if Bitlocker
develops a small glitch, it will turn into a major glitch rather quickly.
 I've seen enough total data losses at the office to convince me to never
use Bitlocker at home.



On 30 May 2014 13:49, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:

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> Unsolicited wrote:
> > So how could Microsoft's end of support for XP have anything to do
> >  with an encrypted file format?
>
> The message on the TrueCrypt site doesn't imply correlation, never mind
> causation: "The development of TrueCrypt was ended in 5/2014 after
> Microsoft terminated support of Windows XP."  This is true, as is "Bob
> replied to unsolicted after eating breakfast".
>
> The latest news is provided by
> https://twitter.com/stevebarnhart/status/472200478345150464
>
> > Shocked, but received 2 replies from an e-mail previously used by a
> >  "David". "There is no longer interest" [...]  He said Bitlocker is
> >  "good enough" and Windows was original "goal of the project". No
> > mention of audit in reply.
>
> David on relicensing and forking the source:
>
> > diplomatic orig reply. "personally" feels that fork is harmful.
> > "The source is still available as a reference though"
>
> And putting to rest that the impending audit scared off the developers:
>
> > "I were happy with the audit, it didn't spark anything. We worked
> > hard on this for 10 years, nothing lasts forever."
>
>
> "David" is likely David Tesarik from the Czech Republic. As a
> non-native English speaker, it would account for some of the odd
> phrasing in the announcement.
>
> (from
>
> https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.softodrom.ru%2Fap%2Fb19702.shtml
> )
>
> I can understand that he lost interest.  A third-party audit of his
> software raised some $70,000 in funds, probably several orders of
> magnitude more than any donations made for TrueCrypt itself. I can't
> imagine something more depressing.
>
>
> And for anyone contemplating BitLocker as an alternative: You'll lock
> yourself into a closed system that's likely already compromised (with
> no chance of a code review or security audit) that only runs on one
> proprietary OS. Consider if this is really beneficial for your
> clients, or merely easier for the SysAdmins.
>
> - --Bob.
>
>
> On 14-05-30 01:27 PM, unsolicited wrote:
> > I think the first one covers it:
> >
> > Red Flag! Run away!!! "It's only a bunny." "But that rodent has a
> > mean streak a mile wide! Look at all the bones" "You're a looney."
> >
> > So how could Microsoft's end of support for XP have anything to do
> >  with an encrypted file format? Only if that file format was
> > actually a catepillar pretending to be a snake on a iPhone held
> > hostage in Oz. I swear, the world just keeps getting stranger each
> > and every day. And I am more and more smug that I only use Linux,
> > Free Software encryption the only t
> > oahtthalhglkhfk;ngkm,njhovahv,anv,!!
> >
> > On 14-05-29 10:20 AM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> >> Many theories floating around ...
> >>
> >> With secret court orders no one can be sure of anything ...
> >>
> >> But there are other possibilities.
> >>
> >> See the comments here (change to threshold 3 or 4 to limit to the
> >>  highest rated ones)
> >>
> >> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/05/29/0243223
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Chris Irwin
> >> <chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I wanted to see what everybody's thoughts are about the truecrypt
> >>  "annoucement" yesterday.
> >>
> >> Quoted from their website:
> >>
> >>> WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain
> >>> unfixed
> >> security issues
> >>>
> >>> This page exists only to help migrate existing data encrypted
> >>> by
> >> TrueCrypt.
> >>>
> >>> The development of TrueCrypt was ended in 5/2014 after
> >>> Microsoft
> >> terminated support of Windows XP. Windows 8/7/Vista and later
> >> offer integrated support for encrypted disks and virtual disk
> >> images. Such integrated support is also available on other
> >> platforms (click here for more information). You should migrate
> >> any data encrypted by TrueCrypt to encrypted disks or virtual
> >> disk images supported on your platform.
> >>
> >> There is discussion on slashdot, hacker news, and many other
> >> sites. So far, there is no consensus on what is going on?
> >> Half-hearted compliance with a US NSL? Dead-man switch
> >> prematurely activating?
> >>
> >> Does anybody else have thoughts or insights?
> >>
> >> I'm a dmcrypt user personally, but I know several folks on the
> >> list use truecrypt.
> >>
> >> -- Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca
> >> <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc. Fast
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> >> Edsger W.Dijkstra Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --
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> >>
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