[kwlug-disc] Any experience with cloudatcost.com VPS?
Chamunks Arkturus
chamunks at gmail.com
Sun Jun 29 12:31:26 EDT 2014
At this point I can no longer recommend CAC I am happy with what I have but
that doesn't mean in the current time/place I would really recommend it
now. But if its integration with Fibernetics goes well it may clear things
up. I have heard some things that I'm not allowed to repeat that make me a
little concerned but other then that the company by any means does not seem
in danger of any sort. So that was what I was originally concerned about.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Chris Craig <kwlug.org at ciotog.net> wrote:
> cloudatcost is now part of Fibernetics. They started off as a spin-off
> project but evidently there were some management issues so they've
> been brought back in. If you're really interested you could try
> contacting someone there, but the residential service call centre
> might not know anything about it.
>
> On 27 June 2014 10:03, Charles M <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Reviving an old thread I thought I'd throw my $0.02 about the current
> > impression of Cloudatcost.
> >
> > I went for one of their Developer 2 packages. When I clicked on the
> package
> > a chatbot popped up with something to the effect "Today only use the code
> > ******** for 50% off." (checking today it's still up). The code didn't
> work
> > so I clicked through to the payment screen hoping I would find another
> place
> > the code might apply. Normally most vendors I've dealt with have a
> couple of
> > screens before final payment, cloudatcost doesn't, so be careful before
> > placing an order.
> >
> > After clicking through I got an email "bill" for the order. I logged in
> to
> > the cloudatcost site and found the only payment option is through paypal.
> > I'm not a fan of paypal/ebay so I sent them a ticket about other payment
> > methods. I let the ticket sit overnight with no response. The next day I
> saw
> > that cloudatcost has a Twitter account so I sent them a DM about the
> > ticket/payment. No response a day later. It's now been a couple of days
> with
> > no reply either method.
> >
> > Now I know it's apples and oranges, but when I compare Teksavvy's
> response
> > to issues I've had there is a huge difference. First, I have numbers to
> > call. Second, usually I get a response on my billing within half and
> hour.
> > When I've used Twitter to contact Teksavvy I've received almost instant
> > response (even as late as 8:30pm). I once asked on Twitter if people were
> > having issues with Teksavvy DSL (not DM or quoting them) and got a
> response
> > from a CSR about 30 seconds later. (Turned out Bell was fiddling outside
> our
> > building). Even Godaddy, who I'm moving away from, tends to respond
> within 1
> > day (and they tend to do better when it comes to billing).
> >
> > At this point it looks like I might have to suck it up and create a
> paypal
> > account (I don't really want to) to pay the bill. There is an
> > info at cloudatcost.com I haven't tried yet, but no other contact info.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Chamunks Arkturus <chamunks at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> It appears as though things have stabilized a fair bit since my last
> email
> >> so maybe its all just simply growing pains but it was a bit of a rough
> start
> >> which kind of stinks.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
> >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Where did you hear about the VMWare infrastructure?
> >>> I know that VMWare itself it built on RedHat, but if cloudatcost is not
> >>> actually doing much work with FLOSS directly then maybe there is less
> >>> presentation possibility.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 16/12/13 15:56, Chamunks Arkturus wrote:
> >>> > I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind
> >>> > that you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network
> >>> > uptime or hardware availability these are great. They tend to ship
> >>> > some
> >>> > flaky ubuntu server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help
> >>> > avoiding kernel panics etc. I'm optimistic that these issues may end
> >>> > up
> >>> > leveling out but its definitely a rocky shore right now.
> >>> >
> >>> > I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely
> >>> > flaked
> >>> > out at least once each week for the last couple of months. They're
> >>> > apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.
> >>> > Their support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you
> >>> > don't
> >>> > mind basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats
> >>> > also a small hitch. Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing
> >>> > what I can to learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve
> >>> > and
> >>> > if you want to have a few little services that arent going to need
> 100%
> >>> > uptime but would be nice to have when it feels like the weather's
> warm
> >>> > enough to be online then they're great!
> >>> >
> >>> > Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like
> running
> >>> > a server on your home internet connection is also technically not a
> bad
> >>> > idea I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some services
> I
> >>> > would use them for but yeah thats my experience this far. Its
> really a
> >>> > disheartening start but they seem to be working through it all.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
> >>> > <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a
> vendor.
> >>> > The
> >>> > presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was
> not
> >>> > *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation
> of
> >>> > problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and
> >>> > services is
> >>> > your company offering to combat these problems, and at what
> >>> > prices?"
> >>> >
> >>> > No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But I
> >>> > agree
> >>> > that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.
> >>> >
> >>> > --Bob.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:
> >>> > > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro
> too.
> >>> > e.g. An
> >>> > > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they
> >>> > rose to
> >>> > > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is
> this
> >>> > > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time
> >>> > wasn't
> >>> > > ready for much more.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales
> pitchy
> >>> > but by
> >>> > > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right
> >>> > into the
> >>> > > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience.
> To
> >>> > me,
> >>> > > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and
> >>> > whether or
> >>> > > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something
> >>> > from the
> >>> > > tech. department?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right
> balance
> >>> > > between professional development looking to leverage work
> >>> > environments,
> >>> > > and non-professional home users looking to expand their
> >>> > knowledge.
> >>> > > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem
> for
> >>> > many
> >>> > > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and
> >>> > comfort to
> >>> > > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend
> >>> > the
> >>> > > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is
> >>> > SANS, and
> >>> > > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user
> >>> > wouldn't
> >>> > > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone its
> >>> > nature
> >>> > > or ramifications.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for
> >>> > the
> >>> > vast
> >>> > > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in
> cloud
> >>> > > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have
> played
> >>> > with
> >>> > > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if
> they
> >>> > even
> >>> > > see the point for them in their home environment.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of
> >>> > apache ini
> >>> > > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap
> >>> > configuration, vs
> >>> > > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points should
> I
> >>> > care
> >>> > > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the
> majority.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes
> >>> > from?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
> >>> > >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
> >>> > >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
> >>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics and
> >>> > see
> >>> > >>> where things go.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> My original thought was an engineering focused presentation,
> if
> >>> > >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It would
> >>> > seem
> >>> > >>> more appropriate given the audience.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a
> few
> >>> > years
> >>> > >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience wholly
> >>> > >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical
> >>> > >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific
> >>> > >> technical questions. What they delivered was merely a mind
> >>> > numbing
> >>> > >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at
> all
> >>> > for
> >>> > >> anything. And I do not look forward to having any other
> company
> >>> > >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last
> >>> > time.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
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