<div dir="ltr">At this point I can no longer recommend CAC I am happy with what I have but that doesn't mean in the current time/place I would really recommend it now. But if its integration with Fibernetics goes well it may clear things up. I have heard some things that I'm not allowed to repeat that make me a little concerned but other then that the company by any means does not seem in danger of any sort. So that was what I was originally concerned about.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Chris Craig <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwlug.org@ciotog.net" target="_blank">kwlug.org@ciotog.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">cloudatcost is now part of Fibernetics. They started off as a spin-off<br>
project but evidently there were some management issues so they've<br>
been brought back in. If you're really interested you could try<br>
contacting someone there, but the residential service call centre<br>
might not know anything about it.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 27 June 2014 10:03, Charles M <<a href="mailto:chaslinux@gmail.com">chaslinux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Reviving an old thread I thought I'd throw my $0.02 about the current<br>
> impression of Cloudatcost.<br>
><br>
> I went for one of their Developer 2 packages. When I clicked on the package<br>
> a chatbot popped up with something to the effect "Today only use the code<br>
> ******** for 50% off." (checking today it's still up). The code didn't work<br>
> so I clicked through to the payment screen hoping I would find another place<br>
> the code might apply. Normally most vendors I've dealt with have a couple of<br>
> screens before final payment, cloudatcost doesn't, so be careful before<br>
> placing an order.<br>
><br>
> After clicking through I got an email "bill" for the order. I logged in to<br>
> the cloudatcost site and found the only payment option is through paypal.<br>
> I'm not a fan of paypal/ebay so I sent them a ticket about other payment<br>
> methods. I let the ticket sit overnight with no response. The next day I saw<br>
> that cloudatcost has a Twitter account so I sent them a DM about the<br>
> ticket/payment. No response a day later. It's now been a couple of days with<br>
> no reply either method.<br>
><br>
> Now I know it's apples and oranges, but when I compare Teksavvy's response<br>
> to issues I've had there is a huge difference. First, I have numbers to<br>
> call. Second, usually I get a response on my billing within half and hour.<br>
> When I've used Twitter to contact Teksavvy I've received almost instant<br>
> response (even as late as 8:30pm). I once asked on Twitter if people were<br>
> having issues with Teksavvy DSL (not DM or quoting them) and got a response<br>
> from a CSR about 30 seconds later. (Turned out Bell was fiddling outside our<br>
> building). Even Godaddy, who I'm moving away from, tends to respond within 1<br>
> day (and they tend to do better when it comes to billing).<br>
><br>
> At this point it looks like I might have to suck it up and create a paypal<br>
> account (I don't really want to) to pay the bill. There is an<br>
> <a href="mailto:info@cloudatcost.com">info@cloudatcost.com</a> I haven't tried yet, but no other contact info.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Chamunks Arkturus <<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com">chamunks@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> It appears as though things have stabilized a fair bit since my last email<br>
>> so maybe its all just simply growing pains but it was a bit of a rough start<br>
>> which kind of stinks.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca">acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Where did you hear about the VMWare infrastructure?<br>
>>> I know that VMWare itself it built on RedHat, but if cloudatcost is not<br>
>>> actually doing much work with FLOSS directly then maybe there is less<br>
>>> presentation possibility.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Andrew<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 16/12/13 15:56, Chamunks Arkturus wrote:<br>
>>> > I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind<br>
>>> > that you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network<br>
>>> > uptime or hardware availability these are great. They tend to ship<br>
>>> > some<br>
>>> > flaky ubuntu server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help<br>
>>> > avoiding kernel panics etc. I'm optimistic that these issues may end<br>
>>> > up<br>
>>> > leveling out but its definitely a rocky shore right now.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely<br>
>>> > flaked<br>
>>> > out at least once each week for the last couple of months. They're<br>
>>> > apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.<br>
>>> > Their support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you<br>
>>> > don't<br>
>>> > mind basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats<br>
>>> > also a small hitch. Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing<br>
>>> > what I can to learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve<br>
>>> > and<br>
>>> > if you want to have a few little services that arent going to need 100%<br>
>>> > uptime but would be nice to have when it feels like the weather's warm<br>
>>> > enough to be online then they're great!<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like running<br>
>>> > a server on your home internet connection is also technically not a bad<br>
>>> > idea I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some services I<br>
>>> > would use them for but yeah thats my experience this far. Its really a<br>
>>> > disheartening start but they seem to be working through it all.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com">bjonkman@sobac.com</a><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a vendor.<br>
>>> > The<br>
>>> > presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was not<br>
>>> > *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation of<br>
>>> > problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and<br>
>>> > services is<br>
>>> > your company offering to combat these problems, and at what<br>
>>> > prices?"<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But I<br>
>>> > agree<br>
>>> > that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --Bob.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:<br>
>>> > > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro too.<br>
>>> > e.g. An<br>
>>> > > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they<br>
>>> > rose to<br>
>>> > > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is this<br>
>>> > > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time<br>
>>> > wasn't<br>
>>> > > ready for much more.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales pitchy<br>
>>> > but by<br>
>>> > > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right<br>
>>> > into the<br>
>>> > > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience. To<br>
>>> > me,<br>
>>> > > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and<br>
>>> > whether or<br>
>>> > > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something<br>
>>> > from the<br>
>>> > > tech. department?<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right balance<br>
>>> > > between professional development looking to leverage work<br>
>>> > environments,<br>
>>> > > and non-professional home users looking to expand their<br>
>>> > knowledge.<br>
>>> > > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem for<br>
>>> > many<br>
>>> > > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and<br>
>>> > comfort to<br>
>>> > > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend<br>
>>> > the<br>
>>> > > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is<br>
>>> > SANS, and<br>
>>> > > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user<br>
>>> > wouldn't<br>
>>> > > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone its<br>
>>> > nature<br>
>>> > > or ramifications.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for<br>
>>> > the<br>
>>> > vast<br>
>>> > > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in cloud<br>
>>> > > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have played<br>
>>> > with<br>
>>> > > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if they<br>
>>> > even<br>
>>> > > see the point for them in their home environment.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of<br>
>>> > apache ini<br>
>>> > > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap<br>
>>> > configuration, vs<br>
>>> > > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points should I<br>
>>> > care<br>
>>> > > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the majority.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes<br>
>>> > from?<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:<br>
>>> > >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant<br>
>>> > >> <<a href="mailto:acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca">acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca">acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca</a>>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> > >>><br>
>>> > >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics and<br>
>>> > see<br>
>>> > >>> where things go.<br>
>>> > >>><br>
>>> > >>> My original thought was an engineering focused presentation, if<br>
>>> > >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It would<br>
>>> > seem<br>
>>> > >>> more appropriate given the audience.<br>
>>> > >><br>
>>> > >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a few<br>
>>> > years<br>
>>> > >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience wholly<br>
>>> > >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical<br>
>>> > >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific<br>
>>> > >> technical questions. What they delivered was merely a mind<br>
>>> > numbing<br>
>>> > >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at all<br>
>>> > for<br>
>>> > >> anything. And I do not look forward to having any other company<br>
>>> > >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last<br>
>>> > time.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
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