[kwlug-disc] Trying out some additional material on past meeting pages...

Sun Sep 15 18:58:59 EDT 2013

I have made some blog entries, for lack of other (kwlug) facilities, but 
I don't blog.

I have appreciated Raul's and others entries. And I've appreciated the 
ability to search.

So although I have seen no blogs, and removing blogging would not upset 
me, I would like to see the ability to post in some fashion maintained. 
A wiki equivalent to a user talk page would do it.

kwlug.org being, well, kwlug.org, it appears to be a useful central K-W 
spot for those posting Linux/FOSS stuff when they have nowhere else they 
are inclined to, on (kwlug.org) topic specific / one-off things.

Much of the functional choices seem to have occurred pre-twitter and 
pre-google+. Given their presence, a rethink of kwlug.org facilities 
makes some sense - whether it be to aggregate, be different, or be 
(kwlug.org / Linux / K-W) specific. Forums would be useful, but would 
people use them in addition or instead of the list, and wouldn't it be 
creating yet another place to post? (Not saying that's bad. Or good.)

Reminder, however poor it is, kwlug exists on google+ 
(https://plus.google.com/108326364826476905370), and there is a 
kwlug-community community within it.

Don't know if kwlug.org should aggregate or link to it or something. I 
am only just now minded that although I posted to this list at creation, 
I never posted to kwlug.org at the time. Some have said that google+ is 
already old / dated / unpopular, so maybe that's no bad thing.

If you did embed something for zfs or btrfs, thank you - was waiting for 
updated content. But I don't see it at http://kwlug.org/node/897.

On 13-09-15 04:50 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant wrote:
> Just a little update:
>
> - I finished embedding the remain videos that have been uploaded to
> YouTube. I will see about adding the remainder when I can.
> - added the meeting notes for the most recent meetings, back to the
> beginning of the year-ish. These aren't too pretty, but I hope to
> improve the formatting for future meetings.
>
> Next-ish I will try getting Bob's dents into the ZFS/BTRFS meeting.
>
> Other things that I am thinking about:
> - add a block for links to other locations (google+, linkined, mailing
> list, twitter, etc.)
> - do an SEO review of the site, to make sure that it is findable
>
> And a question: does anyone blog on kwlug.org? I am wondering if it
> might make sense to remove the functionality and instead aggregate
> members FLOSS related blogs.
>
> Andrew
>
> (P.S.:
>
>  >>> The problem is that this is / becomes YAPU - Yet Another Place to
> Update.
>
> Agreed and duplication is bad, and automated as much as possible is best.
>
> But does our own website count as YAPU? I would think it should be the
> hub for any meeting, and should link out to related resources? (e.g.,
> videos which we don't want to host ourselves or presenters
> websites/resources)
>
> )
>
>
> On 2013-09-10 3:53 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>> Tonight's presentations were live-dented -- the full conversation is
>> visible at
>>
>>   http://sn.jonkman.ca/conversation/30773
>>
>> and nicely sorted in ascending order (your own OStatus client could
>> display it as a threaded converstation).  There's an RSS feed for just
>> this conversation at
>>
>>   http://sn.jonkman.ca/api/statusnet/conversation/30773.rss
>>
>> (or http://sn.jonkman.ca/api/statusnet/conversation/30773.atom for
>> standards conformance weenies)
>>
>> I'll work on putting that feed into tonight's meeting announcement (but
>> not right now).
>>
>>
>> You can get KWLUG's dents in Atom/RSS at
>>
>>   http://sn.jonkman.ca/kwlug
>>
>> and Atom/RSS feeds are on that page. All of KWLUG's subscriptions are at
>>
>>   http://sn.jonkman.ca/kwlug/all
>>
>> again with Atom/RSS feeds.
>>
>> And everything posted on StatusNet is bridged to Twitter, so anyone who
>> subscribes to https://twitter.com/kwlug will get the full stream. It's a
>> two-way Twitterbridge, so Tweets sent to @KWLUG will show up in
>> StatusNet too.
>>
>> Ain't F/LOSS grand!  Grander than those proprietary silos, anyway.
>>
>>
>> Oh, and if anyone wants to join a StatusNet site there are some public
>> ones listed at
>>
>>
>> http://www.skilledtests.com/wiki/List_of_Independent_Statusnet_Instances
>>
>> Popular StatusNet sites for joining are http://quitter.se,
>> http://micro.fragdev.com and http://oracle.skilledtests.com but of
>> course you're encouraged to set up your own instance. I wonder if KWLUG
>> could have one of its own...
>>
>> --Bob.
>>
>>
>> On 13-09-09 04:48 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>>> I'm all in favour of having info appear in multiple places. But
>>> unsolicited is right, it would be good to have these things update
>>> themselves from the authoritative sources, such as an Atom/RSS feed. Of
>>> course, Google, Twitter et.al. have discontinued publishing Atom/RSS
>>> feeds, the better to coerce you into their ecosystems.
>>>
>>> In addition to Paul's meeting notes and Chamunks' YouTube videos, I've
>>> been live-Tweeting the last few meetings; see https://twitter.com/kwlug
>>>
>>> There's also http://identi.ca/kwlug Sadly, since the switch to pump.io
>>> software I find Identi.ca too difficult to use; f'rinstance, I can't
>>> even find a named anchor on the Identi.ca KWLUG page to point people to
>>> a particular thread in the conversation.
>>>
>>> So, I've just set up http://sn.jonkman.ca/kwlug to provide a F/LOSS way
>>> to socially medialize. Any OStatus enabled service can connect, so if
>>> you have a Diaspora, Friendica or StatusNet account you can subscribe to
>>> this KWLUG account.
>>>
>>> I'll use that to create an accessible thread for tonight's meeting.
>>> Seems I can edit stuff on kwlug.org, so I'll try to add it myself.
>>>
>>> And if anyone else wants to join me in being the voice of KWLUG on
>>> Twitter, Identi.ca or StatusNet, please let me know and I'll give you
>>> the keys to the front door.
>>>
>>> --Bob.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-09-09 03:31 PM, unsolicited wrote:
>>>> The problem is that this is / becomes YAPU - Yet Another Place to
>>>> Update.
>>>>
>>>> [Don't get Bob started on the proliferation of <x>, let alone in the
>>>> twitterverse!]
>>>>
>>>> Even if twitter, facebook, kwlug-disc, google+, <your favourite place>,
>>>> could be auto-included within the appropriate kwlug.org page, someone
>>>> would have to maintain the list/links of 'appropriate kwlug.org pages'.
>>>> e.g. Each meeting aggregation would presumably be at a different link.
>>>>
>>>> kwlug.org has never seemed to be a really popular place to post stuff.
>>>> What to do about that or how to 'fix' it, I have no idea.
>>>>
>>>> Khalid - what Drupal things are out there surrounding this sort of
>>>> collection / collective content maintenance?
>>>>
>>>> -- Bill
>>>> [Who doesn't understand why Bob ...]
>>>>
>>>> On 13-09-09 02:26 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to see more useful information in kwlug.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> As as start to that idea I tried adding Paul's meeting notes and
>>>>> embedding Colin's videos for the following meetings:
>>>>>
>>>>> Panel Discussion: Earning a Living with FLOSS
>>>>> http://kwlug.org/node/888
>>>>>
>>>>> Bitcoin and Ripple
>>>>> http://kwlug.org/node/892
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>> (P.S.: Other things that I was considering might be useful:
>>>>> - transcriptions for the video
>>>>> - embedding presentation slides when possible
>>>>> - expanding on post-meeting notes (links and critical points of the
>>>>> talk)
>>>>> - listings tweets about the meeting (I think that Bob has been live
>>>>> tweeting many of the meetings)
>>>>> )
>>>>>
>>>>>
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