[kwlug-disc] CAT6 - worthwhile? [Was: Re: Powerline networking - viable?]

[Dan Hergott's news account]

I though the very same thing myself many times.  Sadly there is no way 
to install conduit after the drywall is up.

Dan


On 13-10-25 03:11 PM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> If I had the money and the talents, I would put conduits in the house 
> instead of just pulling cable.  Then I'd be ready for whatever the 
> next big technology is, with a easy way to change out the existing 
> cables.  But alas, I have neither!
>
>
>
> On 25 October 2013 14:55, <peter_melse at gto.net 
> <mailto:peter_melse at gto.net>> wrote:
>
>     On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:52:16 -0400, unsolicited
>     <unsolicited at swiz.ca <mailto:unsolicited at swiz.ca>> wrote:
>
>         [Thanks very much John, excellent.]
>
>         Re: CAT6
>
>         I have always assumed there is no significant (home) benefit
>         to CAT6
>         over CAT5e, particularly given the additional handling
>         'difficulties'
>         / cost, especially as I never expect to have any home
>         equipment better
>         than 1 gigabit, full duplex even, to connect it to.
>
>         Have I assumed incorrectly in terms of benefits?
>
>
>         On 13-10-25 09 <tel:13-10-25%2009>:26 AM, John Van Ostrand wrote:
>
>             I have two pairs at home, not the av speeds, slower. They
>             work but not always
>             flawlessly they tend to get warm so they suck a fair
>             amount of energy.
>
>             They have some drawbacks. They don't work across a
>             transformer. Which usually
>             isn't a problem unless you're trying to connect to a
>             neighbour across the
>             street. This also means that interference from a
>             neighbour's powerline adapters
>             is possible. And interloping is too.
>
>             When you use more than one you are effectively setting up
>             a shared media, unlike
>             a switch. More like a hub or wifi access point.
>
>             Also like wifi it's not easy to get the full bandwidth
>             because like shared media
>             collisions happen.
>
>             Now that we are down to two in use (from four) they seem
>             to operate well for
>             Internet use. I'd be wary of pumping a lot of data across
>             them, like a backup.
>
>             The ones I have (dlink from years ago) have a password
>             protect option. I bet
>             this means a neighbour would have to spend 15 or 20
>             minutes to crack the security.
>
>             I originally purchased them as a stop gap. We bought a
>             house and I needed time
>             to wire it. These gave access during the months it took me
>             to pull cat 6.
>             *From: *unsolicited
>             *Sent: *Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:11 PM
>             *To: *Kwlug-Disc
>             *Reply To: *KWLUG discussion
>             *Subject: *[kwlug-disc] Powerline networking - viable?
>
>
>             Been minded that 'powerline' is out there, again. Poking
>             about at Canada
>             Computer, seems I see 3 manufacturers, D-Link, Netgear,
>             Trendnet - no
>             doubt all the same internals. Kits range from $55 - $100.
>
>               From a bit of poking, I see claims of gigabit ports, but
>             further
>             reading reveals max. 500 Mbps transmission. (And they
>             wonder why people
>             mistrust marketers. The info. may be factual, but ...)
>             (Tag seems to be
>             'AV 500'.)
>
>             Anyone have any experience with powerline / wisdom to share?
>
>             - not trying to run multiple HD video streams, just get
>             across a gym
>             with very high ceilings that make a physical copper run
>             problematic. One
>             1280x800 ip cam stream reliably coming full bore would be
>             desired, though.
>
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>     In my (humble) opinion, it depends on if you forsee 802.3an
>     (10gigabit ethernet) being used in the future consumer market. (at
>     the rate these things seem to be moving, I'd count on it in the
>     next 10 years, if the copper Ethernet standards remain attractive)
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