[kwlug-disc] CAT6 - worthwhile? [Was: Re: Powerline networking - viable?]

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Fri Oct 25 15:11:45 EDT 2013


If I had the money and the talents, I would put conduits in the house
instead of just pulling cable.  Then I'd be ready for whatever the next big
technology is, with a easy way to change out the existing cables.  But
alas, I have neither!



On 25 October 2013 14:55, <peter_melse at gto.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:52:16 -0400, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> [Thanks very much John, excellent.]
>>
>> Re: CAT6
>>
>> I have always assumed there is no significant (home) benefit to CAT6
>> over CAT5e, particularly given the additional handling 'difficulties'
>> / cost, especially as I never expect to have any home equipment better
>> than 1 gigabit, full duplex even, to connect it to.
>>
>> Have I assumed incorrectly in terms of benefits?
>>
>>
>> On 13-10-25 09:26 AM, John Van Ostrand wrote:
>>
>>> I have two pairs at home, not the av speeds, slower. They work but not
>>> always
>>> flawlessly they tend to get warm so they suck a fair amount of energy.
>>>
>>> They have some drawbacks. They don't work across a transformer. Which
>>> usually
>>> isn't a problem unless you're trying to connect to a neighbour across the
>>> street. This also means that interference from a neighbour's powerline
>>> adapters
>>> is possible. And interloping is too.
>>>
>>> When you use more than one you are effectively setting up a shared
>>> media, unlike
>>> a switch. More like a hub or wifi access point.
>>>
>>> Also like wifi it's not easy to get the full bandwidth because like
>>> shared media
>>> collisions happen.
>>>
>>> Now that we are down to two in use (from four) they seem to operate well
>>> for
>>> Internet use. I'd be wary of pumping a lot of data across them, like a
>>> backup.
>>>
>>> The ones I have (dlink from years ago) have a password protect option. I
>>> bet
>>> this means a neighbour would have to spend 15 or 20 minutes to crack the
>>> security.
>>>
>>> I originally purchased them as a stop gap. We bought a house and I
>>> needed time
>>> to wire it. These gave access during the months it took me to pull cat 6.
>>> *From: *unsolicited
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:11 PM
>>> *To: *Kwlug-Disc
>>> *Reply To: *KWLUG discussion
>>> *Subject: *[kwlug-disc] Powerline networking - viable?
>>>
>>>
>>> Been minded that 'powerline' is out there, again. Poking about at Canada
>>> Computer, seems I see 3 manufacturers, D-Link, Netgear, Trendnet - no
>>> doubt all the same internals. Kits range from $55 - $100.
>>>
>>>   From a bit of poking, I see claims of gigabit ports, but further
>>> reading reveals max. 500 Mbps transmission. (And they wonder why people
>>> mistrust marketers. The info. may be factual, but ...) (Tag seems to be
>>> 'AV 500'.)
>>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with powerline / wisdom to share?
>>>
>>> - not trying to run multiple HD video streams, just get across a gym
>>> with very high ceilings that make a physical copper run problematic. One
>>> 1280x800 ip cam stream reliably coming full bore would be desired,
>>> though.
>>>
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> In my (humble) opinion, it depends on if you forsee 802.3an (10gigabit
> ethernet) being used in the future consumer market. (at the rate these
> things seem to be moving, I'd count on it in the next 10 years, if the
> copper Ethernet standards remain attractive)
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