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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I though the very same thing myself
      many times.  Sadly there is no way to install conduit after the
      drywall is up.<br>
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      Dan<br>
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      On 13-10-25 03:11 PM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">If I had the money and the talents, I would put
        conduits in the house instead of just pulling cable.  Then I'd
        be ready for whatever the next big technology is, with a easy
        way to change out the existing cables.  But alas, I have
        neither!
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 25 October 2013 14:55, <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:peter_melse@gto.net" target="_blank">peter_melse@gto.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:52:16 -0400, unsolicited <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca"
              target="_blank">unsolicited@swiz.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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              [Thanks very much John, excellent.]<br>
              <br>
              Re: CAT6<br>
              <br>
              I have always assumed there is no significant (home)
              benefit to CAT6<br>
              over CAT5e, particularly given the additional handling
              'difficulties'<br>
              / cost, especially as I never expect to have any home
              equipment better<br>
              than 1 gigabit, full duplex even, to connect it to.<br>
              <br>
              Have I assumed incorrectly in terms of benefits?<br>
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              On <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:13-10-25%2009"
                value="+13102509" target="_blank">13-10-25 09</a>:26 AM,
              John Van Ostrand wrote:<br>
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                I have two pairs at home, not the av speeds, slower.
                They work but not always<br>
                flawlessly they tend to get warm so they suck a fair
                amount of energy.<br>
                <br>
                They have some drawbacks. They don't work across a
                transformer. Which usually<br>
                isn't a problem unless you're trying to connect to a
                neighbour across the<br>
                street. This also means that interference from a
                neighbour's powerline adapters<br>
                is possible. And interloping is too.<br>
                <br>
                When you use more than one you are effectively setting
                up a shared media, unlike<br>
                a switch. More like a hub or wifi access point.<br>
                <br>
                Also like wifi it's not easy to get the full bandwidth
                because like shared media<br>
                collisions happen.<br>
                <br>
                Now that we are down to two in use (from four) they seem
                to operate well for<br>
                Internet use. I'd be wary of pumping a lot of data
                across them, like a backup.<br>
                <br>
                The ones I have (dlink from years ago) have a password
                protect option. I bet<br>
                this means a neighbour would have to spend 15 or 20
                minutes to crack the security.<br>
                <br>
                I originally purchased them as a stop gap. We bought a
                house and I needed time<br>
                to wire it. These gave access during the months it took
                me to pull cat 6.<br>
                *From: *unsolicited<br>
                *Sent: *Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:11 PM<br>
                *To: *Kwlug-Disc<br>
                *Reply To: *KWLUG discussion<br>
                *Subject: *[kwlug-disc] Powerline networking - viable?<br>
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                Been minded that 'powerline' is out there, again. Poking
                about at Canada<br>
                Computer, seems I see 3 manufacturers, D-Link, Netgear,
                Trendnet - no<br>
                doubt all the same internals. Kits range from $55 -
                $100.<br>
                <br>
                  From a bit of poking, I see claims of gigabit ports,
                but further<br>
                reading reveals max. 500 Mbps transmission. (And they
                wonder why people<br>
                mistrust marketers. The info. may be factual, but ...)
                (Tag seems to be<br>
                'AV 500'.)<br>
                <br>
                Anyone have any experience with powerline / wisdom to
                share?<br>
                <br>
                - not trying to run multiple HD video streams, just get
                across a gym<br>
                with very high ceilings that make a physical copper run
                problematic. One<br>
                1280x800 ip cam stream reliably coming full bore would
                be desired, though.<br>
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            In my (humble) opinion, it depends on if you forsee 802.3an
            (10gigabit ethernet) being used in the future consumer
            market. (at the rate these things seem to be moving, I'd
            count on it in the next 10 years, if the copper Ethernet
            standards remain attractive)<br>
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