[kwlug-disc] CAT6 - worthwhile? [Was: Re: Powerline networking - viable?]

peter_melse at gto.net peter_melse at gto.net
Fri Oct 25 14:55:02 EDT 2013


 On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:52:16 -0400, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> 
 wrote:
> [Thanks very much John, excellent.]
>
> Re: CAT6
>
> I have always assumed there is no significant (home) benefit to CAT6
> over CAT5e, particularly given the additional handling 'difficulties'
> / cost, especially as I never expect to have any home equipment 
> better
> than 1 gigabit, full duplex even, to connect it to.
>
> Have I assumed incorrectly in terms of benefits?
>
>
> On 13-10-25 09:26 AM, John Van Ostrand wrote:
>> I have two pairs at home, not the av speeds, slower. They work but 
>> not always
>> flawlessly they tend to get warm so they suck a fair amount of 
>> energy.
>>
>> They have some drawbacks. They don't work across a transformer. 
>> Which usually
>> isn't a problem unless you're trying to connect to a neighbour 
>> across the
>> street. This also means that interference from a neighbour's 
>> powerline adapters
>> is possible. And interloping is too.
>>
>> When you use more than one you are effectively setting up a shared 
>> media, unlike
>> a switch. More like a hub or wifi access point.
>>
>> Also like wifi it's not easy to get the full bandwidth because like 
>> shared media
>> collisions happen.
>>
>> Now that we are down to two in use (from four) they seem to operate 
>> well for
>> Internet use. I'd be wary of pumping a lot of data across them, like 
>> a backup.
>>
>> The ones I have (dlink from years ago) have a password protect 
>> option. I bet
>> this means a neighbour would have to spend 15 or 20 minutes to crack 
>> the security.
>>
>> I originally purchased them as a stop gap. We bought a house and I 
>> needed time
>> to wire it. These gave access during the months it took me to pull 
>> cat 6.
>> *From: *unsolicited
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:11 PM
>> *To: *Kwlug-Disc
>> *Reply To: *KWLUG discussion
>> *Subject: *[kwlug-disc] Powerline networking - viable?
>>
>>
>> Been minded that 'powerline' is out there, again. Poking about at 
>> Canada
>> Computer, seems I see 3 manufacturers, D-Link, Netgear, Trendnet - 
>> no
>> doubt all the same internals. Kits range from $55 - $100.
>>
>>   From a bit of poking, I see claims of gigabit ports, but further
>> reading reveals max. 500 Mbps transmission. (And they wonder why 
>> people
>> mistrust marketers. The info. may be factual, but ...) (Tag seems to 
>> be
>> 'AV 500'.)
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with powerline / wisdom to share?
>>
>> - not trying to run multiple HD video streams, just get across a gym
>> with very high ceilings that make a physical copper run problematic. 
>> One
>> 1280x800 ip cam stream reliably coming full bore would be desired, 
>> though.
>>
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 In my (humble) opinion, it depends on if you forsee 802.3an (10gigabit 
 ethernet) being used in the future consumer market. (at the rate these 
 things seem to be moving, I'd count on it in the next 10 years, if the 
 copper Ethernet standards remain attractive)






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