[kwlug-disc] Offline/offsite archival data storage

Colin Mackay zixiekat at gmail.com
Fri Oct 18 09:38:32 EDT 2013


Ah yes.  I remember this.  Great video. :D


2013/10/18 CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>

> Whatever solution you choose, it's important that you watch this
> informative video on backups:
>
> http://youtu.be/MgxgYL5P4z4
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> On 18 October 2013 09:20, Colin Mackay <zixiekat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for detailing all your backup schemes.  I think I may end up with
>> some separate drives put into an external SATA3/USB case, rotate them
>> weekly.  I won't be using WD Green drives, had my share of failures with
>> them as well!  My current system uses Seagate RAID certified drives.
>>
>> 'The cloud'...  I always compare it to 'DRMed' stores.  You pay for a
>> remote product that may or may not be there tomorrow.  Yes, Amazon is huge,
>> lots of companies use them, still doesn't make me feel any better. :)
>>
>> I prefer to know my data is sitting somewhere I can go and physically
>> retrieve.  I suppose I'm just getting old. :D
>>
>> Also reminds me of the attached image...
>> [image:
>> data:image/jpeg;base64,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]
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Right, but Colin doesn't believe in "The Cloud".
>>>
>>> - Paul
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:43:02AM -0700, Fernando Duran wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I use Amazon's S3 http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ , 200 GB would be
>>> $2 (for infrequent retrievals) to $19/month (regular).
>>> >
>>> > S3 is pretty much a gold standard in data storage. It creates multiple
>>> redundant copies, there are Linux command line tools and (commercial)
>>> clients for Windows/Mac, it's cheap, you can use different locations, you
>>> can serve/share files on the web with one click etc. It's also probably the
>>> biggest provider so it's not going away anytime soon (many of the cloud
>>> providers you'll find are S3 resellers with a front-end).
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kwlug-disc mailing list
>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
>>> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> kwlug-disc mailing list
>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
>> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kwlug-disc mailing list
> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://kwlug.org/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/attachments/20131018/fadbdb63/attachment-0001.html>


More information about the kwlug-disc mailing list