[kwlug-disc] Offline/offsite archival data storage

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Fri Oct 18 09:27:58 EDT 2013


Whatever solution you choose, it's important that you watch this
informative video on backups:

http://youtu.be/MgxgYL5P4z4

Enjoy!


On 18 October 2013 09:20, Colin Mackay <zixiekat at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for detailing all your backup schemes.  I think I may end up with
> some separate drives put into an external SATA3/USB case, rotate them
> weekly.  I won't be using WD Green drives, had my share of failures with
> them as well!  My current system uses Seagate RAID certified drives.
>
> 'The cloud'...  I always compare it to 'DRMed' stores.  You pay for a
> remote product that may or may not be there tomorrow.  Yes, Amazon is huge,
> lots of companies use them, still doesn't make me feel any better. :)
>
> I prefer to know my data is sitting somewhere I can go and physically
> retrieve.  I suppose I'm just getting old. :D
>
> Also reminds me of the attached image...
> [image:
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> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Right, but Colin doesn't believe in "The Cloud".
>>
>> - Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:43:02AM -0700, Fernando Duran wrote:
>> >
>> > I use Amazon's S3 http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ , 200 GB would be
>> $2 (for infrequent retrievals) to $19/month (regular).
>> >
>> > S3 is pretty much a gold standard in data storage. It creates multiple
>> redundant copies, there are Linux command line tools and (commercial)
>> clients for Windows/Mac, it's cheap, you can use different locations, you
>> can serve/share files on the web with one click etc. It's also probably the
>> biggest provider so it's not going away anytime soon (many of the cloud
>> providers you'll find are S3 resellers with a front-end).
>> >
>>
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