<div dir="ltr">Ah yes. I remember this. Great video. :D<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/18 CrankyOldBugger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Whatever solution you choose, it's important that you watch this informative video on backups:<div><br>
</div><div><a href="http://youtu.be/MgxgYL5P4z4" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/MgxgYL5P4z4</a><br></div><div><br></div>
<div>Enjoy!</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 October 2013 09:20, Colin Mackay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zixiekat@gmail.com" target="_blank">zixiekat@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for detailing all your backup schemes. I think I may end up with some separate drives put into an external SATA3/USB case, rotate them weekly. I won't be using WD Green drives, had my share of failures with them as well! My current system uses Seagate RAID certified drives.<br>
</div><div><br>'The cloud'... I always compare it to 'DRMed' stores. You pay for a remote product that may or may not be there tomorrow. Yes, Amazon is huge, lots of companies use them, still doesn't make me feel any better. :)<br>
<br></div><div>I prefer to know my data is sitting somewhere I can go and physically retrieve. I suppose I'm just getting old. :D<br></div><div><br></div>Also reminds me of the attached image...<br><img 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</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Paul Nijjar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Right, but Colin doesn't believe in "The Cloud".<br>
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- Paul<br>
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On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:43:02AM -0700, Fernando Duran wrote:<br>
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> I use Amazon's S3 <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/" target="_blank">http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/</a> , 200 GB would be $2 (for infrequent retrievals) to $19/month (regular).<br>
><br>
> S3 is pretty much a gold standard in data storage. It creates multiple redundant copies, there are Linux command line tools and (commercial) clients for Windows/Mac, it's cheap, you can use different locations, you can serve/share files on the web with one click etc. It's also probably the biggest provider so it's not going away anytime soon (many of the cloud providers you'll find are S3 resellers with a front-end).<br>
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