[kwlug-disc] Any experience with cloudatcost.com VPS?
Andrew Sullivan Cant
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
Fri Dec 27 14:15:03 EST 2013
Where did you hear about the VMWare infrastructure?
I know that VMWare itself it built on RedHat, but if cloudatcost is not
actually doing much work with FLOSS directly then maybe there is less
presentation possibility.
Andrew
On 16/12/13 15:56, Chamunks Arkturus wrote:
> I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind
> that you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network
> uptime or hardware availability these are great. They tend to ship some
> flaky ubuntu server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help
> avoiding kernel panics etc. I'm optimistic that these issues may end up
> leveling out but its definitely a rocky shore right now.
>
> I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely flaked
> out at least once each week for the last couple of months. They're
> apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.
> Their support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you don't
> mind basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats
> also a small hitch. Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing
> what I can to learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve and
> if you want to have a few little services that arent going to need 100%
> uptime but would be nice to have when it feels like the weather's warm
> enough to be online then they're great!
>
> Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like running
> a server on your home internet connection is also technically not a bad
> idea I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some services I
> would use them for but yeah thats my experience this far. Its really a
> disheartening start but they seem to be working through it all.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
> <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
>
> I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a vendor. The
> presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was not
> *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation of
> problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and services is
> your company offering to combat these problems, and at what prices?"
>
> No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But I agree
> that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.
>
> --Bob.
>
>
>
> On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:
> > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro too.
> e.g. An
> > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they rose to
> > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is this
> > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time wasn't
> > ready for much more.
> >
> > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales pitchy
> but by
> > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right into the
> > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience. To me,
> > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.
> >
> > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and whether or
> > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something
> from the
> > tech. department?
> >
> > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right balance
> > between professional development looking to leverage work
> environments,
> > and non-professional home users looking to expand their knowledge.
> > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem for many
> > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and
> comfort to
> > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend the
> > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is
> SANS, and
> > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user
> wouldn't
> > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone its nature
> > or ramifications.
> >
> > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for the
> vast
> > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in cloud
> > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have played with
> > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if they even
> > see the point for them in their home environment.
> >
> > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of apache ini
> > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap configuration, vs
> > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points should I care
> > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the majority.
> >
> > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes from?
> >
> >
> > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
> >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
> >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics and see
> >>> where things go.
> >>>
> >>> My original thought was an engineering focused presentation, if
> >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It would seem
> >>> more appropriate given the audience.
> >>
> >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a few years
> >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience wholly
> >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical
> >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific
> >> technical questions. What they delivered was merely a mind numbing
> >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at all for
> >> anything. And I do not look forward to having any other company
> >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last time.
> >
> >
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