[kwlug-disc] Any experience with cloudatcost.com VPS?

Chamunks Arkturus chamunks at gmail.com
Mon Dec 16 15:56:33 EST 2013

I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind that
you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network uptime or
hardware availability these are great.  They tend to ship some flaky ubuntu
server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help avoiding kernel
panics etc.  I'm optimistic that these issues may end up leveling out but
its definitely a rocky shore right now.

I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely flaked
out at least once each week for the last couple of months.  They're
apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.  Their
support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you don't mind
basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats also a
small hitch.  Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing what I can to
learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve and if you want to
have a few little services that arent going to need 100% uptime but would
be nice to have when it feels like the weather's warm enough to be online
then they're great!

Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like running a
server on your home internet connection is also technically not a bad idea
I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some services I would use
them for but yeah thats my experience this far.  Its really a disheartening
start but they seem to be working through it all.

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:

> I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a vendor. The
> presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was not
> *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation of
> problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and services is
> your company offering to combat these problems, and at what prices?"
> No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But I agree
> that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.
> --Bob.
> On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:
> > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro too. e.g. An
> > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they rose to
> > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is this
> > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time wasn't
> > ready for much more.
> >
> > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales pitchy but by
> > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right into the
> > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience. To me,
> > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.
> >
> > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and whether or
> > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something from the
> > tech. department?
> >
> > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right balance
> > between professional development looking to leverage work environments,
> > and non-professional home users looking to expand their knowledge.
> > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem for many
> > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and comfort to
> > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend the
> > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is SANS, and
> > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user wouldn't
> > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone its nature
> > or ramifications.
> >
> > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for the vast
> > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in cloud
> > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have played with
> > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if they even
> > see the point for them in their home environment.
> >
> > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of apache ini
> > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap configuration, vs
> > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points should I care
> > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the majority.
> >
> > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes from?
> >
> >
> > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
> >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
> >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics and see
> >>> where things go.
> >>>
> >>> My original thought was an engineering focused presentation, if
> >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It would seem
> >>> more appropriate given the audience.
> >>
> >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a few years
> >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience wholly
> >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical
> >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific
> >> technical  questions. What they delivered was merely a mind numbing
> >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at all for
> >> anything.  And I do not look forward to having any other company
> >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last time.
> >
> >
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