[kwlug-disc] Any experience with cloudatcost.com VPS?

Chamunks Arkturus chamunks at gmail.com
Fri Dec 27 16:10:13 EST 2013


It appears as though things have stabilized a fair bit since my last email
so maybe its all just simply growing pains but it was a bit of a rough
start which kind of stinks.


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant <
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> Where did you hear about the VMWare infrastructure?
> I know that VMWare itself it built on RedHat, but if cloudatcost is not
> actually doing much work with FLOSS directly then maybe there is less
> presentation possibility.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 16/12/13 15:56, Chamunks Arkturus wrote:
> > I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind
> > that you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network
> > uptime or hardware availability these are great.  They tend to ship some
> > flaky ubuntu server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help
> > avoiding kernel panics etc.  I'm optimistic that these issues may end up
> > leveling out but its definitely a rocky shore right now.
> >
> > I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely flaked
> > out at least once each week for the last couple of months.  They're
> > apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.
> > Their support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you don't
> > mind basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats
> > also a small hitch.  Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing
> > what I can to learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve and
> > if you want to have a few little services that arent going to need 100%
> > uptime but would be nice to have when it feels like the weather's warm
> > enough to be online then they're great!
> >
> > Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like running
> > a server on your home internet connection is also technically not a bad
> > idea I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some services I
> > would use them for but yeah thats my experience this far.  Its really a
> > disheartening start but they seem to be working through it all.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
> > <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a vendor.
> The
> >     presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was not
> >     *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation of
> >     problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and services
> is
> >     your company offering to combat these problems, and at what prices?"
> >
> >     No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But I
> agree
> >     that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.
> >
> >     --Bob.
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:
> >     > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro too.
> >     e.g. An
> >     > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they rose
> to
> >     > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is this
> >     > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time wasn't
> >     > ready for much more.
> >     >
> >     > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales pitchy
> >     but by
> >     > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right into
> the
> >     > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience. To
> me,
> >     > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.
> >     >
> >     > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and
> whether or
> >     > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something
> >     from the
> >     > tech. department?
> >     >
> >     > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right balance
> >     > between professional development looking to leverage work
> >     environments,
> >     > and non-professional home users looking to expand their knowledge.
> >     > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem for
> many
> >     > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and
> >     comfort to
> >     > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend the
> >     > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is
> >     SANS, and
> >     > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user
> >     wouldn't
> >     > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone its
> nature
> >     > or ramifications.
> >     >
> >     > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for the
> >     vast
> >     > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in cloud
> >     > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have played
> with
> >     > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if they
> even
> >     > see the point for them in their home environment.
> >     >
> >     > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of apache
> ini
> >     > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap
> configuration, vs
> >     > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points should I
> care
> >     > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the majority.
> >     >
> >     > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes from?
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
> >     >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
> >     >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>>
> wrote:
> >     >>>
> >     >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics and see
> >     >>> where things go.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> My original thought was an engineering focused presentation, if
> >     >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It would
> seem
> >     >>> more appropriate given the audience.
> >     >>
> >     >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a few
> years
> >     >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience wholly
> >     >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical
> >     >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific
> >     >> technical  questions. What they delivered was merely a mind
> numbing
> >     >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at all
> for
> >     >> anything.  And I do not look forward to having any other company
> >     >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last time.
> >     >
> >     >
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