[kwlug-disc] Any experience with cloudatcost.com VPS?
Chamunks Arkturus
chamunks at gmail.com
Fri Dec 27 16:10:13 EST 2013
It appears as though things have stabilized a fair bit since my last email
so maybe its all just simply growing pains but it was a bit of a rough
start which kind of stinks.
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant <
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> Where did you hear about the VMWare infrastructure?
> I know that VMWare itself it built on RedHat, but if cloudatcost is not
> actually doing much work with FLOSS directly then maybe there is less
> presentation possibility.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 16/12/13 15:56, Chamunks Arkturus wrote:
> > I've a few services with cloud at cost and as long as you don't mind
> > that you're probably not going to reach anything near 100% network
> > uptime or hardware availability these are great. They tend to ship some
> > flaky ubuntu server images that require IO timeout tweaks taht help
> > avoiding kernel panics etc. I'm optimistic that these issues may end up
> > leveling out but its definitely a rocky shore right now.
> >
> > I tried installing a ZNC instance on a 35$ one and its definitely flaked
> > out at least once each week for the last couple of months. They're
> > apparently backed by vmware infrastructure in some way or another.
> > Their support doesn't respond much at all either so as long as you don't
> > mind basically having to re-image the server to solve problems thats
> > also a small hitch. Granted I'm not an elite sysadmin but I'm doing
> > what I can to learn and these VPS's are great for the learning curve and
> > if you want to have a few little services that arent going to need 100%
> > uptime but would be nice to have when it feels like the weather's warm
> > enough to be online then they're great!
> >
> > Either way because they're technically not a bad idea just like running
> > a server on your home internet connection is also technically not a bad
> > idea I will likely keep checking out a few of them for some services I
> > would use them for but yeah thats my experience this far. Its really a
> > disheartening start but they seem to be working through it all.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com
> > <mailto:bjonkman at sobac.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I was at a seminar recently where the invited speaker was a vendor.
> The
> > presentation was at a suitably technical level. The problem was not
> > *enough* self-promotion by the vendor: After a good explanation of
> > problems and solutions we had to ask "But what products and services
> is
> > your company offering to combat these problems, and at what prices?"
> >
> > No point in having a vendor come in if they're not vending. But I
> agree
> > that product shilling shouldn't overwhelm the presentation.
> >
> > --Bob.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13-12-15 10:42 AM, unsolicited wrote:
> > > Ach. I dunno, there's been some decent ones too. At wwitpro too.
> > e.g. An
> > > MS Sharepoint presentation there worked out quite well - they rose
> to
> > > the level of the audience. Rose above newbieness to 'what is this
> > > beastie' and not much more, because the audience at the time wasn't
> > > ready for much more.
> > >
> > > VMware at kwlug was almost as good. Started out VERY sales pitchy
> > but by
> > > the end, given the nature of the audience, were getting right into
> the
> > > technical stuff for us. Also an, in the end, good experience. To
> me,
> > > anyways. But it sure didn't start out well.
> > >
> > > Perhaps it depends upon what department they come from, and
> whether or
> > > not it's a pre-packaged sales pitch presentation, vs something
> > from the
> > > tech. department?
> > >
> > > Part of the problem with both groups is finding the right balance
> > > between professional development looking to leverage work
> > environments,
> > > and non-professional home users looking to expand their knowledge.
> > > Particularly that those in the profession live the ecosystem for
> many
> > > hours each day and so bring a lot of background knowledge and
> > comfort to
> > > any seminar. While the home user often struggles to comprehend the
> > > nature of the rather big ecosystem out there. Easy example is
> > SANS, and
> > > fibre, let alone non-default file systems, which the home user
> > wouldn't
> > > normally experience. To know it's even out there, let alone its
> nature
> > > or ramifications.
> > >
> > > Cloud is an easy example where the latter probably applies for the
> > vast
> > > majority - few in either camp will be directly involved in cloud
> > > configuration, and I doubt the majority of home users have played
> with
> > > vm's - it taking a certain amount of horsepower to do so, if they
> even
> > > see the point for them in their home environment.
> > >
> > > A less than deeply technical, these are the finer points of apache
> ini
> > > cache configurations in your multi-homed active swap
> configuration, vs
> > > 'what is this beastie' and 'what buying criteria points should I
> care
> > > about and how do I implement them' will likely suit the majority.
> > >
> > > It probably depends upon which department the presenter comes from?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13-12-15 06:40 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
> > >> On Dec 15, 2013 1:04 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant
> > >> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Me too....I'll try to connect with someone at Fibernetics and see
> > >>> where things go.
> > >>>
> > >>> My original thought was an engineering focused presentation, if
> > >>> that was possible, and not just a sales focused one. It would
> seem
> > >>> more appropriate given the audience.
> > >>
> > >> I remember organizing a commercial presentation for kwlug a few
> years
> > >> back. I won't name names because I found the experience wholly
> > >> unsatisfactory. The company agreed to put on a technical
> > >> presentation, not a sales pitch. They agreed to take specific
> > >> technical questions. What they delivered was merely a mind
> numbing
> > >> tech-free sales pitch. and so I do not trust that company at all
> for
> > >> anything. And I do not look forward to having any other company
> > >> desecrate a kwlug meeting. The experience was horrible last time.
> > >
> > >
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