[kwlug-disc] "In the new Canada, the web browses you"

Colin K colin at void11.com
Fri Aug 12 18:22:22 EDT 2011


well it seems as though major websites are starting to implement ssl on all
of their systems.  Encrypted.google.com httpS://www.facebook.com even some
torrent sites such as https://thepiratebay.org (or could be different but i
know it happens) its noones business but mine and my data provider's
business what I'm doing on the internet anyone who thinks otherwise is
strongly invading my rights and are mistaken if they think I'll give that up
easily.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net> wrote:

> You're probably thinking of the Clipper Chip, back in the 90's.
>
> There was a large backlash, and it didn't catch on.
>
> The potential upcoming legislation doesn't pertain to encryption, as
> far as I know.  They just want to be able to eavesdrop on your plaintext
> internet traffic without a warrant.
>
> How this is to be paid for, I'm not sure, but it sounds like they expect
> ISPs to implement the data capture infrastructure.
>
> Maybe this will renew a general interest in cryptography. :-)
>
> - Chris
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:08:36PM -0400, unsolicited wrote:
> > This starts to feel like ... I'm groping here ...
> >
> > Wasn't there a U.S. encryption chip some time ago where their Feds
> > were mandating that a master key be inserted for them?
> >
> > Seems to me that didn't happen, but I'm not sure of that.
> >
> > These articles feel like an ISP equivalent to those chips.
> >
> > Chris Frey wrote, On 08/12/2011 5:37 PM:
> > >Another article on this topic, FYI:
> > >
> > >http://www.themarknews.com/articles/6384-stopping-state-surveillance
> > >
> > >
> > >On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 03:16:41PM -0400, Chris Frey wrote:
> > >>An article on potential changes to ISP tracking requirements:
> > >>
> > >>
> http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/08/05/jesse-kline-in-the-new-canada-the-web-browses-you/
> > >>
> > >>My main concern is that government may have access to this data without
> > >>a warrant.  If the data is already public (like facebook and twitter)
> > >>that's
> > >>one thing, but if it is connecting private data (like home address) to
> > >>that public data, with no warrant, that's another.
> > >>
> > >>I'm posting the link just to share information, not to provoke a long
> > >>political discussion. :-)
> > >>
> > >>- Chris
> > >>
> > >>
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