[kwlug-disc] C-22 ... metadata ... is now debated on the floor

[Doug Moen]

I'm reconsidering my options for which commercial service I use to operate email services for my personal domain. Now that the Liberals have a majority, Canada looks like an unsafe country for hosting email (given that I am uninterested in operating my own SMTP server). Which is too bad, because I'd rather give my money to a Canadian business.

Proton is what I'm investigating right now.

Doug.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2026, at 4:43 PM, Jason wrote:
> Already got the template response back from Bardish Chagger on my email.  Will have to find time to pick it apart and respond:
> 
> ---
> Dear Jason,
> 
> Thank you for contacting our office to share your comments on this legislation. Listening to constituents is an important part of my job as your Member of Parliament, and one that I take very seriously. Your position has been noted. Please provide your complete residential address for our records, as well as a phone number, if possible.
> 
> I appreciate you taking the time to raise your concerns with Bill C-22. The world is changing and the way harms are being caused and the ‘weapons’ being used are not always physical. Yet, most Canadians expect legislation to be current and to have the teeth so that our independent law enforcement entities and judiciary can hold perpetrators to account and protect victims.
> 
> Bill C-22 was only introduced in the House of Commons on March 12, 2026. To follow the legislative progress of this Bill, please visit: https://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/en/bill/45-1/c-22. This legislation needs to go through Second Reading where it will be debated, and feedback and suggestions can be offered by Members of Parliament in the House of Commons. If Bill C-22 passes Second Reading, it will then go to Committee where it can be scrutinized and amended. To inform these changes, experts, academics, and other witnesses can be invited to better inform the Bill providing constructive insights and concerns.
> 
> It’s time that Canadian law enforcement has a Canadian solution to go after criminals. Bill C-22: an Act Respecting Lawful Access proposes the modernization of lawful access capabilities and authorities to enable law enforcement and the Canadian Security Intelligence Services (CSIS) to legally obtain certain information, data, and communications from electronic service providers (ESPs). These authorities and capabilities represent the modernization of critical investigative tools that keep Canadians safe in an increasingly complex and dynamic digital world.
> New measures proposed in Bill C-22 will provide law enforcement the tools they’ve been asking for to combat child sexual exploitation, extortion, human trafficking, money laundering, and other serious crimes. C-22 would implement modernized lawful access capabilities through the following:
> 
> 1.      Legal authorities (Part 1: Timely Access to Data and Information) to modernize investigative tools to help law enforcement access basic digital information more efficiently while maintaining strong privacy protections and judicial oversight.
> 2.      Technical capabilities (Part 2: Supporting Authorized Access to Information Act (SAAIA)) for ESPs to allow law enforcement and CSIS to access certain information and data, only with a court order. This section will mandate how ESPs must establish and maintain the requisite hardware and software capabilities to comply with lawful access requests which Canada does not currently possess.
> 
> The safety and security of Canadians is always a federal government’s top priority. Canada is the only country among its Five Eyes and G7 partners that doesn’t have lawful access legislation, and therefore we can only rely on international partners. Our government has been clear that lawful access measures are necessary to give law enforcement the tools they need to protect Canadians. This includes to disrupt organized crime networks and investigate serious threats.
> 
> Rest assured, as C-22 currently stands, includes a Parliamentary review after three years of receiving Royal Assent. Rest reassured, we also want to get this legislation right and are willing to take the time to do it. Inaction is not an option.
> 
> Thank you again for taking the time to write. Upon receipt of your contact information, we will share your comments with federal colleagues. We hope this reply is of assistance and that you are keeping well and safe notwithstanding the circumstances.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Hon. Bardish Chagger, P.C.
> Member of Parliament for the Riding of Waterloo 
> 360-100 Regina Street South
> Waterloo, ON  N2J 4P9
> 519.746.1573
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 5:47 PM Jason <jasonpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I get all of Open Media's emails on these topics and there's usually a way to submit a form or custom email template to your MP and the relevant ministers. Here's the relevant one here under Campaigns:
>> 
>> https://action.openmedia.org/page/188754/action/1?chain
>> 
>> Related Article:
>> 
>> https://openmedia.org/press/item/ottawa-repackages-its-surveillance-backdoor-in-bill-c-22
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 5:43 PM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>>> Somehow I found myself reading this.
>>> 
>>> https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2026/04/more-surveillance-demands-to-come-government-admits-bill-c-22s-lawful-access-provisions-could-be-expanded/
>>> 
>>> Personally, as a maker of 3NWeb, were 2nd N stands for "No unnecessary 
>>> metadata given to service provider", 
>>> https://opensource.ieee.org/3nweb/architecture#-federation-classical-vs-web-based 
>>> , I could be smug with an "I told you so" smile. But.
>>> Personally, I have on my mind only one thing: please, please, please, 
>>> don't turn this place into worst parts of the USSR, clearly observable 
>>> in Putin's Russia.
>>> 
>>> Where do we communicate to our reps/MP(s)?
>>> 
>>> Collection of metadata on all, forced by government, is incompatible 
>>> with EU. In other words, companies from here won't be able to do 
>>> business in 500M population market.
>>> 
>>> If a company collects all this metadata, creating a juicy target, will 
>>> government protect it? E.g. I have to store financial document in the 
>>> office, but there is Police and RCMP that are a deterrent for those who 
>>> may steal my physical stuff. Hence, we can keep those note paper. But in 
>>> a digital realm, if government forces me to collect a pile of stuff that 
>>> attracts thieves, then it should provide protection. Where is it? And if 
>>> there is none, don't force me to collect metadata.
>>> 
>>> I wonder, if for modern app, it may be more expensive to capture and 
>>> keep all of metadata, than it is to just keep user's data.
>>> It feels like a squeeze: government requirements on one side, and crazy 
>>> prices for storage one another.
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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