[kwlug-disc] sad news from the Ukraine

[Mikalai Birukou]

> Is most of the fighting between Ukrainians who want to remain 
> Ukrainians and Ukrainians who want to separate and re-join Russia I 
> wonder?
> That is a narrative I am hearing from a couple of colleagues.
>
> Or it is de-facto  Russian soldiers on Ukrainian lands fighting the 
> Ukrainians who wish to remain their own sovereign nation?

Oh, man. This is an echo of a decade long propaganda by Russian 
Federation. My Russian speaking relatives show signs of deep hate for 
what Russian military has done. Most of those in Ukraine who believed 
Russian propaganda now realize how fooled they were.

Reality is that all of top brass in government of a separatist region, 
was all citizens of Russian Federation. No kidding. All way back from 
2014. Both citizens and residents of Russian Federation.

I intentionally highlight Russian Federation (RF), as apposed to 
Russian. Firstly, it isn't easy to motivate Russians from RF to go and 
kill Russians in the East of Ukraine. Secondly, even in 2014 there was 
already a ton of video evidence of nationalities from Siberian part of 
RF in tank brigades fighting against Ukraine. These brigades couldn't 
possible originate from Ukraine.

I think we are seeing a repeat of Nazi's propaganda, what it did to 
people, in uniform and civilians, how society going to heal from this, 
etc. I turned to think that some post-war German rules were to 
excessive, but events in Belarus in 2020 and this war now show that 
German approach is a starting point to deflect memetic toxins that 
surely destroy the very foundation of civilization.

>> This is not as sad as the deaths of so many civilians.
>
> There is no one in Ukraine untouched by this. I have a lot of 
> relatives, particularly in Mariupol. Those, who I was able to contact, 
> are alive, due to organization in hiding from shelling. "Horrible" 
> just doesn't start to describe this.
>
> Wave of people in Europe starts to reach our shores. A friend of mine 
> picked his farther in Poland. He evacuated with other family members 
> from Kharkiv by land to Poland. Many thanks to Polish and European 
> people. Please, support all these initiatives.
>
>>     Russian bomb destroys Ukrainian PC museum:
>>
>>     https://www.pcgamer.com/retro-computing-museum-in-ukraine-destroyed-by-russian-bomb/
>>
>
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Mikalai Birukou
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