[kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is evil?

[Mikalai Birukou]

> My 2017 Ford F-150 has the same sort of gizmos.

Can rust attack all connectors to antennas, suddenly and all at once?


> -------- Original message --------
> From: Doug Moen <doug at moens.org>
> Date: 2022-06-17 5:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: KWLUG Discuss <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is 
> evil?
>
> Thanks Chris. We are long time Mazda owners. When our current car 
> starts breaking down, we would like to consider an electric car. But 
> without this kind of always-on telematics. I wonder if it will be 
> available?
>
> I would like there to be Canadian government legislation about this, 
> framed as a consumer rights issue.
>  1. The right to be fully informed about telematics before purchase.
>  2. The right to disable or opt out of telematics, without crippling 
> the thing being purchased:
>      * for privacy (no surveillance)
>      * for security (I don't want my car to become part of someones 
> botnet, and I don't want to give hackers the ability to remotely take 
> over my car).
>
> In Europe, the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation of 2018) gives 
> consumers these rights. It applies equally to car telematics and 
> cookie tracking on web sites. So if political activism is required, we 
> can point to the GDPR and say "me too".
>
> The new data privacy bill C-27, announced yesterday, doesn't do the job.
> https://openmedia.org/press/item/new-privacy-legislation-repeats-past-mistakes
>
> But there is still an opportunity to introduce amendments. I am going 
> to contact my MP and see what can be done. I recommend everyone else 
> on this list who is concerned by this issue to get active.
>
> Doug.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022, at 12:07 AM, Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022, at 17:47, Doug Moen wrote:
>>> Like for example, we just bought a new washing machine and dryer. 
>>> The top selling brand transmits everything you do to the 
>>> manufacturer over the internet. For now, this is opt in, but 
>>> internet surveillance already cannot be turned off for a growing 
>>> number of consumer machines and appliances. We bought a less popular 
>>> brand with no surveillance, because that's something that's still 
>>> available.
>>
>> You may find this interesting/disconcerting:
>>
>> https://www.mazda.ca/en/mazda-connected-vehicle/overview/
>>
>> Neat, Mazda has an app. It does a bunch of neat things like letting 
>> you start, pre heat/cool your car, unlock doors, get reminders for 
>> service and recalls. Neat. Oh, it can tell you where you parked your 
>> car, too.
>>
>> Wait, how does this work? Lets check the privacy policy, because it's 
>> not documented anywhere else...
>>
>> https://www.mazda.ca/en/privacy-policy/cv-privacy/
>>
>>> _*Vehicle Data: *_When you purchase or lease a Connected Vehicle, 
>>> the telematics system is active by default and transmits vehicle 
>>> data, including driving behavior data (including the acceleration 
>>> and speed of your Connected Vehicle, travel direction, and use of 
>>> steering and braking functions) and vehicle health data (which 
>>> includes Vehicle Identification Number (VIN); odometer, fuel level, 
>>> and oil life readings; Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs); and data 
>>> from the Connected Vehicle’s OBD system, including engine coolant 
>>> temperature, fuel injection volume, engine Rotation Per Minute 
>>> (RPM), and the status of doors, hood, trunk, and hazard lights). If 
>>> your Connected Vehicle has a Connected Services plan, we also 
>>> collect geo-location coordinates of your Connected Vehicle’s 
>>> latitude and longitude.
>>
>> Oh, and don't forget you've also installed an app on your phone!
>>
>>> _*MyMazda Data:*_ If you use the MyMazda app, we collect the 
>>> location of your device, device type, device operating system, 
>>> Internet Protocol (IP) address, unique identifier, type of browser, 
>>> Internet service provider, phone number, and information about your 
>>> use of MyMazda, including screen time, scrolling, specific actions 
>>> and taps, reactions to alerts, the progress, completion and/or 
>>> abandonment of in-application purchases, and crash reports.
>>>
>>
>> And I'm not picking on Mazda in particular. I'm only aware of it 
>> because I own a Mazda and it came up in a discussion forum. Almost 
>> every car in the last few years has this kind of connectivity now. 
>> People expect it. You can probably blame Tesla.
>>
>> -- 
>> *Chris Irwin*
>>
>> email: chris at chrisirwin.ca
>>   web: https://chrisirwin.ca
>>
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