[kwlug-disc] MKS

Doug Moen doug at moens.org
Sat Jul 30 08:21:04 EDT 2022


Do you remember the `lc` command? Stands for "list catalog", like `ls` except it separates directories from files. It was one of the utilities written at the University of Waterloo for the Honeywell. MKS Toolkit had a version. I wrote my own version for Unix back in the 1990's and still use it.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, at 9:44 PM, Doug Moen wrote:
> And I just installed Qed.
> https://github.com/phonologus/QED
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, at 9:18 PM, Doug Moen wrote:
>> Since we are reminiscing about the good old days,
>> one of the "text based realities" I experienced while working at MKS
>> was using the Qed text editor (written by David Tilbrook, Rob Pike and 
>> others at U of T).
>> Tilbrook was working there at the time.
>>
>> This Qed had a family resemblance to the FRED text editor at University 
>> of Waterloo (FRED ran on the Honeywell in the Math department during 
>> the 1980's when I was there). In other words, it was a command line 
>> text editor, related to Unix `ed` but much more powerful, with 
>> multi-file editing and a built in programming language. It was pretty 
>> cool, and I could use some powerful tricks that aren't available to me 
>> in Vi AFAIK, but it wasn't open source and I lost access to it after I 
>> left MKS.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, at 7:06 PM, Steve Izma wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 06:36:13PM -0400, Ron Singh wrote:
>>>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] MKS
>>>> 
>>>> Oh my gosh, Steve, I need to be whipped, Yes, MKS! Though I
>>>> could have sworn you were doing some work with WLU at the time?
>>>
>>> Yes, I was in two places at once[1]. In fact in late 1986 I held
>>> down three jobs, since I returned to Dumont Press Graphix (a
>>> typesetting co-op) to help wind it down (I had helped start it up
>>> in 1971 and worked there until 1984). I left MKS at the end of
>>> 1988 (although I still attended their parties) and continued with
>>> WLU Press for another 27 years.
>>>
>>>> Lord, I miss those simpler days of text-based realities and
>>>> 3/$1 hots dogs at that 7/11  next door to my old office:-)
>>>
>>> I can't say I miss cheap hot dogs, but I continue to experience
>>> the text-based reality of vi and ksh every day, without regret.
>>> Except maybe for the fact that fewer and fewer people can even
>>> imagine those experiences, making it difficult to explain.
>>>
>>> 	-- Steve
>>>
>>> Footnotes:
>>> [1] "How can you be in two places at once when you're really
>>> nowhere at all?", a song by Firesign Theatre.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Steve Izma
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