[kwlug-disc] Ardour

Sat May 8 21:03:01 EDT 2021

okok I was in a bad mood (but I do have a headache now). I put in some work
today:

- I watched Brent's sound presentations to get a handle on Jack (several
ppl pointed me in this direction and it was very helpful)

- I've skipped through parts of unfa's 2 hour MIDI Masterclass (thanks for
the link it was also very helpful). It's very thorough and I used it to
transfer my existing Reaper knowledge

- I was having no end of trouble with Ubuntu 20.04 so I installed Ubuntu
Studio 21.04. As soon as I did this, things just started working. I got the
latest Ardour, Jack, etc. The newest qjackctl also has the graph view
built-in now which is nice

- I get more instrument plugins in Ardour now that I'm in Ubuntu Studio. I
think that's just something that Ubuntu Studio packs in by default (i.e.
not a change in Ardour) but I'm not entirely sure.

- Ardour 6.6 started accepting my go-to synth (Surge) all of a sudden. I'm
chalking it up to a new feature (Ubuntu 20.04, which I was using, packages
Ardour 5.12, which is now 4 years out of date)

- I needed `a2jmidid -e` to make my external USB music keyboard to show up
in the qjackctl graph

- I still want to get more desktop stuff routing through Jack. E.g. I
wanted to watch unfa's video while messing around in Ardour but couldn't do
that out-of-the-box. I think I need to configure gstreamer to use the Jack
sink, I just need to test that out (or something something pulseaudio)

At the end of the day, I'd say Ardour is no more or less complicated than,
e.g., Reaper, and Reaper is already pretty complicated. I'll toy around
with it a bit more but it definitely has more features than LMMS at the
cost of a learning curve rivaling that of a brick wall.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:30 PM R. Brent Clements <rbclemen at gmail.com> wrote:

> To be fair, I do use it.  Once you wrap your head around the paradigm, it
> is a very powerful package.  With JACK in the background, you can route
> audio into and out of Ardour through real-world devices or any JACK enabled
> audio processing app in existance.
>
> It would make more sense to someone who already understands that huge
> board that Michael showed in the presentation.
>
> Brent
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 10:44, Charles M <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One of the reasons I mentioned it was because there were lots of
>> videos on that particular channel about using Ardour. I've been
>> compiling resources to help some of our newer Linux users figure out
>> alternatives to what they've been using on Linux. It's good to know
>> that Ardour is such a PITA. Unfa's videos always looked interesting,
>> but normally most of my audio needs are served by Audacity and some
>> filters. Still thought it worth mentioning as "one more tool" in the
>> toolbox.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 3:38 AM R. Brent Clements <rbclemen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > "Nothing intuitive, Everything complicated"
>> >
>> > Ardour core design philosophy (probably...)
>> >
>> > Brent
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed., May 5, 2021, 19:44 Michael Hitchens, <mdhitchens at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks I did not know about Ardour before. From the little bit that I
>> checked out it made me very frustrated. Nothing is intuitive, everything is
>> complicated. Maybe I’m in a bad mood but I don’t see myself using it...
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:20 PM R. Brent Clements <rbclemen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ardour was not mentioned by Michael.  Ardour can do all the things
>> that LMMS can do in addition to live recording of tracks in sync with the
>> mix.  It is a MUCH more complicated software to use though.  I can see the
>> appeal of a simple system like LMMS for amateur musicians.
>> >>>
>> >>> Brent
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 21:24, Charles M <chaslinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks Michael for the LMMS presentation, and Rocco for the Blender
>> >>>> presentation.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I didn't stick to the very end. Did Ardour get mentioned as an
>> >>>> alternate open source DAW? While it's not quite my taste in music,
>> >>>> Unfa has a pretty extensive Youtube channel covering Ardour as a DAW
>> >>>> under Linux (and some strong humorous views about using Linux).
>> >>>> Michael covered quite a bit in his presentation, this would be the
>> >>>> Ardour version of some of what was covered:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAYKj_peyESIMDp5LtHlH2A
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Charles
>> >>>>
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