[kwlug-disc] Fw: Looking for colo facility suggestions

Thu Oct 8 09:42:24 EDT 2020

I am a total noob in racking servers. I long for explicit clarity about 
KiloWatts:

  - What KW's your GPU rack is using as 90%-tile?

  - How many KW's of heat vendor guarantees to take out, if all racks 
produce this amount of heat?

  - Does vendor tell you this info?

Implicit human assumption may be that total power available in a rack, 
if used, will be dissipated by cooling. Something tells me that even 
implicit assumption may be missing from SLA'a. (reminder to read 'em.)

  - Do you have to space racks out, if they consume all of given power 
(e.g. GPU's)?

It be nice to hear both consumed and energy and ability to absorb it in 
same nominal units, like KW's, as these are same energy per time, units 
of power.

Super-cooled DC is super implicit. What are explicit numbers?

(It happens that I write code that implicitly means the right thing, but 
it never convinces the machine. :) )

On 2020-10-07 6:03 p.m., Charlie Drage wrote:
> Off-ish topic. Has anyone had an experience hosting a high temp multi 
> GPU rack server at NPlus or any nearby data center? The problem I'm 
> having is constant high temperatures with my cluster.
>
> So looking for a super-cooled DC.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 18:00 Jonathan Poole <jpoole at digitaljedi.ca 
> <mailto:jpoole at digitaljedi.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Francisco is pretty awesome. I’d concur with that
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     > On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca
>     <mailto:lists at alteeve.ca>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Excellent news, thanks.
>     >
>     >> On 2020-10-07 5:25 p.m., Charlie Drage wrote:
>     >> Just replied ^^. If Fibernetics took over, I'd suggest giving
>     them a
>     >> try. Francisco is a networking guru.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 17:24 Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca
>     <mailto:lists at alteeve.ca>
>     >> <mailto:lists at alteeve.ca <mailto:lists at alteeve.ca>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>    It's who we're strongly leaning towards. Can you elaborate
>     on your past
>     >>    experience?
>     >>
>     >>>    On 2020-10-07 1:29 p.m., Charlie Drage wrote:
>     >>> Super delayed reply.
>     >>>
>     >>> But whatever you do, do NOT host at Rack & Data.
>     >>>
>     >>> I had nothing but problems (I was there for 3 years).
>     >>>
>     >>> --
>     >>> Charlie Drage
>     >>> PGP - 4096R/C037D617
>     >>> GPG / Encrypted Communication: charliedrage.com/contact
>     <http://charliedrage.com/contact>
>     >>    <http://charliedrage.com/contact>
>     >>>
>     >>> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 3:06 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant
>     >>> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>
>     <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
>     <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Now this got be curious if anyone has a list of all the data
>     >>    centres in
>     >>>> the region.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> A quick search found this list, which has some:
>     >>>> https://www.datacentermap.com/canada/waterloo/
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Which includes
>     >>>> * DataCity
>     >>>> * N Plus Networks
>     >>>> * NeuStyle - Wat1
>     >>>> * Rack & Data
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Some additional search also found:
>     >>>> * http://kwdatacentre.com/
>     >>>> * https://cloudatcost.com/
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Are there any others?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Andrew
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 2020-05-25 7:13 p.m., Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> For some reason Madison's post got discarded too. Sigh.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Madison: Have you looked into Datacity?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> - Paul
>     >>>>>
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>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 16:59:55 -0400
>     >>>>> From: Madison Kelly <mkelly at alteeve.ca
>     <mailto:mkelly at alteeve.ca> <mailto:mkelly at alteeve.ca
>     <mailto:mkelly at alteeve.ca>>>
>     >>>>> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org
>     <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>     >>    <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>>>
>     >>>>> Subject: Looking for colo facility suggestions
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Hi all,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> ï¿½ Anyone have experience with colo facilities?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> ï¿½ We're looking of 1/4 ~ 1/2 rack, and a facility with
>     >>    multiple internet
>     >>>>> connections and redundant power.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Thanks for any advice!
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Madi
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> --
>     >>>>> Madison Kelly
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>     >>    --
>     >>    Digimer
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>     convolutions of
>     >>    Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of
>     equal talent
>     >>    have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." -
>     Stephen Jay
>     >>    Gould
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Digimer
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>     > Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal
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>     Jay Gould
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