[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

Chamunks chamunks at gmail.com
Fri Mar 23 11:50:03 EDT 2018 

I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to commit but I'm going to
definitely take a look into seeing if I can't convince Kapley into letting
us have three registered people.  It looks like some simple copy & pastes
in the Terms of Service Agreement for the space.

I'm dealing with a bunch of stuff in my AFK world which are making my side
a bit slower than I initially anticipated but I should be able to have the
next step taken by the end of next week.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:

>
> So maybe this is a little strong. We definitely need at least one
> volunteer to be present at every meeting, since we cannot share
> biometrics around. But I am wary of saying "must commit to attend to
> most meetings" because that quickly turns into "commit to attend about
> half the meetings" and then we are in trouble. There really is some
> kind of commitment involved.
>
> On the other hand, there are other roles at KWLUG which require far
> less commitment. It would be nice to have some help with those tasks.
>
> - Paul
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Paul Nijjar wrote:
> >
> > As I wrote privately to Chamunks: since there are only two people
> > allowed the volunteers need to commit to attending every meeting.
> > Otherwise if neither shows up we are out of a space.
> >
> > - Paul
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:14:58PM +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> > > It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a
> spare
> > > backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics
> members.  I
> > > > might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us
> it
> > > > seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
> > > > Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a
> difficult
> > > > time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable
> with
> > > > paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with
> the
> > > > document I have here scanned via my android.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
> > > > acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Paul,
> > > >>
> > > >> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
> > > >> responsibility for opening then space.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a
> person
> > > >> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about
> using
> > > >> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what
> the
> > > >> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
> > > >>
> > > >> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all
> our
> > > >> dates in 2018.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in
> being a
> > > >> > host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings,
> being
> > > >> > present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
> > > >> > biometrically?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping
> them get
> > > >> > ready for the meeting.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
> > > >> > willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially with
> > > >> > somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Paul
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> > > >> >> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the
> situation
> > > >> either
> > > >> >> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with
> biometrics for
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to
> connect
> > > >> with
> > > >> >> the property manager as well.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what
> we
> > > >> >>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
> > > >> >>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for
> specific
> > > >> >>> months then we can try to meet there.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who
> are not
> > > >> >>> only me).
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since
> Spectrum
> > > >> >>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the
> landlords
> > > >> >>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular
> days.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so
> long as I
> > > >> >>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the
> street
> > > >> >>> from SJK.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> - Paul
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> > > >> >>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the
> new
> > > >> >>> property
> > > >> >>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and
> the
> > > >> >>> section
> > > >> >>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
> > > >> regardless of
> > > >> >>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
> > > >> >>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property
> owner
> > > >> wants
> > > >> >>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept
> exciting.
> > > >> >>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something
> mentioning that
> > > >> the
> > > >> >>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in
> the
> > > >> >>> co-share
> > > >> >>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been
> any
> > > >> >>> explicit
> > > >> >>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however
> in this
> > > >> >>> case I
> > > >> >>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept
> of
> > > >> having
> > > >> >>> us
> > > >> >>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
> > > >> ecosystem
> > > >> >>> as
> > > >> >>>> our "cost".
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
> > > >> >>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> - Paul
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next
> door to
> > > >> >>>>> Google.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
> > > >> >>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
> > > >> >>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
> > > >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
> > > >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ
> Lab was
> > > >> >>> there
> > > >> >>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space
> would
> > > >> come
> > > >> >>> with
> > > >> >>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of
> other KWLUG
> > > >> >>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share
> space which
> > > >> >>> is in
> > > >> >>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down
> the
> > > >> >>> road if
> > > >> >>>>> we
> > > >> >>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
> > > >> projected
> > > >> >>>>> onto a
> > > >> >>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much
> easier
> > > >> >>> then
> > > >> >>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our stuff
> > > >> >>> securely on
> > > >> >>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do
> now.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
> > > >> building
> > > >> >>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could
> likely
> > > >> >>> set
> > > >> >>>>> up a
> > > >> >>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
> > > >> >>> increasing
> > > >> >>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them
> into
> > > >> >>> letting
> > > >> >>>>> us
> > > >> >>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for
> ourselves
> > > >> >>> because I
> > > >> >>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss
> outside of
> > > >> >>> this
> > > >> >>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on
> Meetup.
> > > >> There
> > > >> >>>>> are a
> > > >> >>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting
> groups in
> > > >> the
> > > >> >>>>>> region.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> So in abstract,
> > > >> >>>>>> Pros:
> > > >> >>>>>> - New secure space for us
> > > >> >>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
> > > >> suitable
> > > >> >>>>> for a
> > > >> >>>>>> meeting here and there.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
> > > >> >>>>>> - HD Projector.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
> > > >> >>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so
> we're not
> > > >> >>> really
> > > >> >>>>>> moving far.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
> > > >> >>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats
> at the
> > > >> >>>>> location
> > > >> >>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the
> expansion of
> > > >> >>> the
> > > >> >>>>>> group.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> Cons:
> > > >> >>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so
> no
> > > >> >>>>> Accessible
> > > >> >>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen
> but no
> > > >> >>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in
> the
> > > >> >>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
> > > >> >>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more parking
> > > >> >>> planned.
> > > >> >>>>>
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