[kwlug-disc] Recommendations on ethernet cable tool sets, kits?

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Tue Jan 30 10:18:42 EST 2018


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Cedric shouted:
> 2) IF YOU ARE CRIMPING MALE RJ45 ENDS ON A CABLE, YOU ARE DOING IT
> WONG AND SHOULD JUST STOP.  INSTALL KEYSTONE JACKS AT ALL TIMES.

Are there keystone jacks enclosures designed for inline cables, eg.
not for wall-mount boxes?  I would hate to give a client a "fixed"
cable with just a keystone jack hanging off the end.

- --Bob.


On 2018-01-29 09:42 AM, Cedric Puddy wrote:
> Hi Folks!
> 
> Copule quick points:
> 
> 1) Byte Brothers (I got mine from PrimeSpec) makes a cable
> certifier that sits in between basic continuity testing and totally
> far-gone cable certifiers -- it's about $500.  It's about 95% of a
> classy, $6k unit.  The trade-offs are more in the line of terrible
> user interface and slow, fussy workflow, but that's no big deal if
> you aren't doing high numbers of drops.  (You do a single cable,
> you have to run back and forth connecting a terminal block on the
> far end, then pushing buttons the near end, etc.  But it definitely
> gives you a very good read-back on whether the cable you punched
> down was done right.
> 
> 2) IF YOU ARE CRIMPING MALE RJ45 ENDS ON A CABLE, YOU ARE DOING IT
> WONG AND SHOULD JUST STOP.  INSTALL KEYSTONE JACKS AT ALL TIMES.
> OK, so that's a bit strong, but seriously, I deal with lots of
> cables, and I haven't crimped a male RJ45 end on a cable since
> about 2003.   I gave away my RJ45 crimp tools, don't carry one, and
> neither do my techs.  The reason:  you cannot manually make a patch
> cable to nearly the same spec as machines, and it is FAR more
> reliable to attach a keystone jack; moreover the manufactured
> cables are cheap and plentiful.
> 
> Keystone jacks are a lot more forgiving, faster, and easy to
> inspect/fix if there's a problem.  And a shout out to Primespec --
> I buy all this kind of stuff there; cabling is  only cost effective
> if you have a proper vendor who serves the professional cabling
> market.  Home Despot marks this stuff up "a hair too much", in my
> experience.
> 
> We usually sub-contract cabling, but sometimes "internal resources"
> have to chip in.  When that happens, we usually do continuity
> testing when we install a keystone jack, and only occasionally use
> the Byte Brothers certifier.  For continuity, my absolutely
> favourite tool is the Ideal LinkMaster Pro, with a bunch of
> remotes.  The awesome thing about this unit is that if you plug it
> into a cable with a remote on the end, it will instantly power on,
> test the cable, tell you if it's good within 2 seconds, and then go
> back to sleep when you unplug the cable.  I've used my for years
> and changed the battery once, and it's just so damn fast.  It does
> a variety of things, but the "UX experience" can't be beat.  No
> idea who sells them these days, or how much. 
> https://www.google.ca/search?q=ideal+supply+cable+tester&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiI99KDsv3YAhVs_IMKHb7qA3AQ_AUICygC&biw=1270&bih=2043#imgrc=kKnl2wz6FDhssM
>
> 
:
> 
> Anyhoo, my 0.02!  Make it a great one!
> 
> -Cedric
> 
> 
> On 29 January 2018 at 09:04, nafdef <nafdef at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Bob. -FF
>> 
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