[kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop

Mon Sep 4 11:25:01 EDT 2017

Believe WordPerfect 5.1 was 11 DSDD 5 1/4" floppies... 

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> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:20 AM, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
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> You shouldn't encourage someone named Cranky...
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> Cranky, who fondly remembers installing Word Perfect 5.1 with 36 floppies...
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>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 09:18 Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Charles! Thanx, but it wasn't really a tech support question, more
>> a reminiscence of how easy it used to be, meant as encouraging words
>> for Cranky...
>> 
>> - --Bob, who probably has Novell branded CDs around here somewhere
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-08-29 09:00 AM, Charles McColm wrote:
>> > If you really want to know Bob I have my boxed SuSE Pro 9.2 still
>> > sitting at work ;-) You're welcome to borrow it for awhile. I loved
>> > 9.2, but remember 9.3 really felt bloated.
>> >
>> >
>> > To: KWLUG discussion Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME
>> > desktop
>> >
>> > I wonder what SUSE was using cira v9.3 -- I remember setting up X
>> > sessions to be accessed by VNC. Fairly simple, as I recall, just
>> > adding a couple of lines similar to 'x1: vnc=1024x768' to the X
>> > display config file...
>> >
>> > --Bob.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2017-08-28 04:24 PM, Jeff Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >> Some new news on this issue:
>> >
>> >> https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop
>> >> [https://ctrl.blog/wp-content/uploads/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop-sharing-1072x603.png]<https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop>
>> >
>> >>  Remote desktop capabilities set to make a comeback in GNOME on
>> >> Wayland<https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop>
>> >> ctrl.blog Work on new Mutter APIs and Remote Desktop service
>> >> enable screen recording and remote desktop in GNOME under
>> >> Wayland.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> It seems that a) I'm not losing my mind and GNOME/Wayland does
>> >> not in fact currently have VNC baked in, and b) they are working
>> >> on fixing that (the Wayland VNC thing, not my mental health).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> ________________________________ From: kwlug-disc
>> >> <kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org> on behalf of Khalid Baheyeldin
>> >> <kb at 2bits.com> Sent: 18 August 2017 12:19 To: KWLUG discussion
>> >> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop
>> >
>> >> There was a recent thread here in response to a similar question
>> >> that I asked.
>> >
>> >> I tried VNC, but it is very slow.
>> >
>> >> NoMachine worked fine. There are .deb packages that you install
>> >> using gdebi and they work seamlessly. Little network overhead
>> >> and very responsive.
>> >
>> >> On 8/18/17, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> With the upcoming changes to Ubuntu (GNOME and Wayland), and
>> >>> with the current similar state of Fedora and other distros, has
>> >>> anyone given any though as to how to remote into a system such
>> >>> as these and remotely controlled the desktop (similar to RDP,
>> >>> VNC, etc.)
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm trying to plan out how I can contact my machines once I
>> >>> upgrade the Ubuntu boxes, as well as the ones currently
>> >>> running Fedora 26.
>> >>>
>> >>> It seems that my current solution of VNC or X11VNC over SSH
>> >>> isn't going to work once they move from X to Wayland.  Sure, I
>> >>> could drop back to X, but I wanted to see how we can do this
>> >>> like it says in the brochure...
>> >>>
>> >>> From what I've seen so far, we're going to really rock the
>> >>> remote connectivity boat when we switch to Wayland, and the
>> >>> next version of Ubuntu is supposed to do just that.  As of
>> >>> right now, I am unable to bring up my personal laptop's Fedora
>> >>> 26 desktop remotely because I haven't been able to find a
>> >>> Wayland solution.
>> >>>
>> >>> Connecting to Ubuntu Unity desktops is easy with SSH and VNC
>> >>> (using TigerVNC in most cases).  But from what I understand,
>> >>> VNCserver (and its variants) does not support Wayland, only X.
>> >>>
>> >>> So what we need is:
>> >>>
>> >>> SSH tunnel (or a similarly secure GUI connection) a
>> >>> Wayland/GNOME ready GUI presentation. An "always-on" connection
>> >>> that doesn't depend on someone being logged on at the server
>> >>> end (for example, if I reboot the server remotely I still want
>> >>> to come back and see a GUI logon.  AFAIK you can't do this with
>> >>> Vino.)
>> >>>
>> >>> And of course, ways to achieve this using a client that's
>> >>> either Linux or Windows (for those of us forced to use Windows
>> >>> at work....)
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> >> -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal
>> >> optimization, development, customization and consulting.
>> >> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. --  Edsger W.Dijkstra
>> >> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da
>> >> Vinci
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