<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Believe WordPerfect 5.1 was 11 DSDD 5 1/4" floppies... </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Stuart<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:20 AM, CrankyOldBugger <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">You shouldn't encourage someone named Cranky...<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cranky, who fondly remembers installing Word Perfect 5.1 with 36 floppies...</div><div><br><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 09:18 Bob Jonkman <<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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Hi Charles! Thanx, but it wasn't really a tech support question, more<br>
a reminiscence of how easy it used to be, meant as encouraging words<br>
for Cranky...<br>
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- --Bob, who probably has Novell branded CDs around here somewhere<br>
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On 2017-08-29 09:00 AM, Charles McColm wrote:<br>
> If you really want to know Bob I have my boxed SuSE Pro 9.2 still<br>
> sitting at work ;-) You're welcome to borrow it for awhile. I loved<br>
> 9.2, but remember 9.3 really felt bloated.<br>
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> To: KWLUG discussion Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME<br>
> desktop<br>
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> I wonder what SUSE was using cira v9.3 -- I remember setting up X<br>
> sessions to be accessed by VNC. Fairly simple, as I recall, just<br>
> adding a couple of lines similar to 'x1: vnc=1024x768' to the X<br>
> display config file...<br>
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> --Bob.<br>
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> On 2017-08-28 04:24 PM, Jeff Smith wrote:<br>
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>> Some new news on this issue:<br>
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>> <a href="https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop</a><br>
>> [<a href="https://ctrl.blog/wp-content/uploads/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop-sharing-1072x603.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ctrl.blog/wp-content/uploads/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop-sharing-1072x603.png</a>]<<a href="https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop</a>><br>
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>> Remote desktop capabilities set to make a comeback in GNOME on<br>
>> Wayland<<a href="https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop</a>><br>
>> ctrl.blog Work on new Mutter APIs and Remote Desktop service<br>
>> enable screen recording and remote desktop in GNOME under<br>
>> Wayland.<br>
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>> It seems that a) I'm not losing my mind and GNOME/Wayland does<br>
>> not in fact currently have VNC baked in, and b) they are working<br>
>> on fixing that (the Wayland VNC thing, not my mental health).<br>
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>> ________________________________ From: kwlug-disc<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org</a>> on behalf of Khalid Baheyeldin<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>> Sent: 18 August 2017 12:19 To: KWLUG discussion<br>
>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop<br>
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>> There was a recent thread here in response to a similar question<br>
>> that I asked.<br>
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>> I tried VNC, but it is very slow.<br>
><br>
>> NoMachine worked fine. There are .deb packages that you install<br>
>> using gdebi and they work seamlessly. Little network overhead<br>
>> and very responsive.<br>
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>> On 8/18/17, CrankyOldBugger <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> With the upcoming changes to Ubuntu (GNOME and Wayland), and<br>
>>> with the current similar state of Fedora and other distros, has<br>
>>> anyone given any though as to how to remote into a system such<br>
>>> as these and remotely controlled the desktop (similar to RDP,<br>
>>> VNC, etc.)<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm trying to plan out how I can contact my machines once I<br>
>>> upgrade the Ubuntu boxes, as well as the ones currently<br>
>>> running Fedora 26.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It seems that my current solution of VNC or X11VNC over SSH<br>
>>> isn't going to work once they move from X to Wayland. Sure, I<br>
>>> could drop back to X, but I wanted to see how we can do this<br>
>>> like it says in the brochure...<br>
>>><br>
>>> From what I've seen so far, we're going to really rock the<br>
>>> remote connectivity boat when we switch to Wayland, and the<br>
>>> next version of Ubuntu is supposed to do just that. As of<br>
>>> right now, I am unable to bring up my personal laptop's Fedora<br>
>>> 26 desktop remotely because I haven't been able to find a<br>
>>> Wayland solution.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Connecting to Ubuntu Unity desktops is easy with SSH and VNC<br>
>>> (using TigerVNC in most cases). But from what I understand,<br>
>>> VNCserver (and its variants) does not support Wayland, only X.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So what we need is:<br>
>>><br>
>>> SSH tunnel (or a similarly secure GUI connection) a<br>
>>> Wayland/GNOME ready GUI presentation. An "always-on" connection<br>
>>> that doesn't depend on someone being logged on at the server<br>
>>> end (for example, if I reboot the server remotely I still want<br>
>>> to come back and see a GUI logon. AFAIK you can't do this with<br>
>>> Vino.)<br>
>>><br>
>>> And of course, ways to achieve this using a client that's<br>
>>> either Linux or Windows (for those of us forced to use Windows<br>
>>> at work....)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?<br>
>>><br>
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>> -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin <a href="http://2bits.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">2bits.com</a>, Inc. <a href="http://2bits.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://2bits.com</a> Drupal<br>
>> optimization, development, customization and consulting.<br>
>> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra<br>
>> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da<br>
>> Vinci<br>
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