[kwlug-disc] How relevant/useful is LinkedIn, e.g. kwlug, K-W, Linux, FOSS, news, groups, ???

[B.S.]

Thanks Bob, Andrew and everyone - good stuff.

I had not considered the silo issue, Andrew, thanks. After the messages 
I googled indieweb a bit, and ... interesting.

Found, for example, https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started , which gives 
one a 'road map', or, essentially a quick overview of what the indieweb 
beastie is, why it matters, and a more specific 'enter here' than 'use 
google'.

I wonder if such is a solution for Jeff to keep his wife satisfied, per 
his earlier thread. Host at home then POSSE?

After the abandonment of zooomr, I had intended to move to DeviantArt at 
one point, but got bogged down in the the multiple areas of legalese, so 
never did consummate the arrangement. zooomr was unique for the time for 
maintaining EXIF/IPTC info -and- for explicitly stating your content is 
YOUR content. Glad I didn't pursue DeviantArt - per 
https://indieweb.org/deviantART an artist found her work was being sold 
on T-Shirts without her knowledge or permission. Crikey!

Found https://indieweb.org/photos , interesting. Which led me to 
http://mediagoblin.org/


 > I think of it as a way for people to find there way to kwlug.org
 > through their connections.

I've found the reverse, myself - KWLUG participation has let me find 
'luggers on these other services. Not that any of us want to spend much 
more time at the keyboard than we already do, with these services. 
(Which is why I tend to pay closer attention to the few 'posts' when 
they do.) KWLUG familiarity lets me validate such connections from the 
average trolls, when they come in.

Darcy, you'll want to check out http://kwlug.org/node/1031


On 09/06/2016 01:05 AM, Darcy Casselman wrote:> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at > 
Andrew, this strikes me as an excellent presentation topic.

On 09/05/2016 08:31 PM, Andrew Sullivan Cant wrote:
> Linkedin is also a silo, so like any other silo you are giving away a
> good bit of control.
>
> It would be interesting to more regularly syndicate meeting
> announcements and membership to LinkedIn. And that topic is a good
> IndieWeb theme which I will probably talk more about next Monday.
> POSSE is the IndieWeb label that is used for this idea
> "Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere"
> https://indieweb.org/POSSE
>
>> Is there any point to a LinkedIn KWLUG Group? I created / maintain
>> the g+
>> kwlug group, but it has been substantially a non-starter. (Which is
>> OK.
>> There seems some little, and sufficient, value in having it there at
>> all, so
>> ... well enough.) Any use of a KWLUG LinkedIn Group?
>
> As Bob pointed out the group already exists. I think it is useful for
> the Linkedin networking kind of thing, but not worth putting time into
> maintaining. I think of it as a way for people to find there way to
> kwlug.org through their connections.
>
>
>
>> e.g. Some people I care about and long lost track of I've found -
>> being out of sight and out of mind and not having a mechanism to
>> collect such, this aspect had never occurred to me. My bad, I
>> suppose.
>
> This is really the only part of Linked in that I have found personally
> useful. But it makes me slightly cranky that I am putting these
> connections in Linkedin primarily.
>
> Using the "XHTML Friends Network" (XFN) formatting and then POSSEing to
> Linkedin, and other networks, seems interesting. You would link to a
> contact and indicate a relationship, and if that contact wanted to
> confirm they would link back to you.
> * https://indieweb.org/xfn
> * http://microformats.org/wiki/xfn-brainstorming
>
> These also seems like some PGP signing would be useful here to validate
> there relationship claims, and counter-claims.
> And since you've got everyone's PGP keys maybe encrypting so that only
> people you already have relationships with can see all the details? Maybe.
>
> Alright, that was a long vague product requirement.
> Lazy web make it so. :)
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 05/09/16 15:12, Chris Craig wrote:
>> Here's my take on LinkedIn:
>>
>> - business news is largely driven by PR/Marketing, so mostly the
>> companies that focus on that are featured prominently
>> - groups are mostly spam factories, especially by marketers (so called
>> "evangelists") and recruiters
>> - the "newsfeed" is predominately click-bait articles, but when a
>> connection updates their profile you get notified which can be nice
>>
>> On 2 September 2016 at 19:37, B.S. <bs27975.2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have just started exploring LinkedIn. (As some of you have no doubt
>>> noticed / send me a connect if you're so inclined).
>>>
>>> I am mindful and leery of it given MS' purchase of it, but it seemed worth a
>>> gander. If I should be more/less concerned about MS here, pipe up.
>>>
>>> I am astonished at how much is there, never having much thought about it -
>>> and wanting nothing to do with Facebook (== social networking). Spending all
>>> day in front of a computer hasn't inclined me towards wanting to spend even
>>> more time in front of one.
>>>
>>> e.g. Some people I care about and long lost track of I've found - being out
>>> of sight and out of mind and not having a mechanism to collect such, this
>>> aspect had never occurred to me. My bad, I suppose.
>>>
>>> e.g. Business news - TV has had less and less useful content, especially
>>> surrounding business and economic news that will impact me in some way (not
>>> being a 'trader'), 'soon'. Is following a local company a substitute? [TV
>>> being non-interactive, sit back and let it wash over you - generally no
>>> scrolling, clicking, or otherwise.]
>>>
>>> e.g. Groups - is this the new mailing list / RSS / news feed / newsgroup /
>>> NNTP?
>>>
>>> - Bob has noted in the past various FOSS / 'twitter' alternatives /
>>> aggregators, is there such for LinkedIn?
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any point to a LinkedIn KWLUG Group? I created / maintain the g+
>>> kwlug group, but it has been substantially a non-starter. (Which is OK.
>>> There seems some little, and sufficient, value in having it there at all, so
>>> ... well enough.) Any use of a KWLUG LinkedIn Group?