[kwlug-disc] What do people dis/like for things like github.com these days?

[B.S.]

Thanks for the heads up on gogs - had never heard of it.
(Not looking at self-hosting at the moment. Some day, probably.)


 > I like finding out a lot from the README

Agreed. (But ...)

 >> I also dislike how people are now treating their README as a
 >> project homepage due to the way Github is structured, and not many
 >> people are giving their projects a proper homepage.
 >
 > I like finding out a lot from the README ... Nothing says you can't
 > have both a project homepage and an extensive README.

I don't believe that's what he meant / certainly isn't how I read it / I 
agree with his comment.

READMEs are good. But gitlab has bastardized it into an almost automatic 
(web) homepage - which once one realizes it is there is really useful 
and convenient (for both writer and reader). Sadly, at the same time, it 
defaults to the web interpretation, and suddenly the page gets wikified 
in a way unintended. Suddenly you have headings and boldings and other 
text candy that you never intended when you dropped that text note to 
yourself in your text editor.

It's really easy to fix, tick a box to not interpret it as wiki|html, 
should one notice the setting tickbox, but it's not the default. Which, 
as he essentially points out, speaks more about the git user than 
anything else.

e.g. A few minutes more work / reading and it can be made / dropped into 
to project level (folder, essentially), and a more general front page 
made. Even if only to say - 'these are here', and those go to the 
project, which defaults to the readme. (But please untick the wiki 
interpretation!)

That many time those few extra minutes aren't spent ...
(It's YOUR public persona people ... thanks for <whatever> 'code', but 
do you REALLY want to come across as so lazy and oblivious?)


On 10/23/2016 07:39 PM, Keefer Rourke wrote:
>
> On October 23, 2016 10:23:11 AM EDT, Hubert Chathi <hubert at uhoreg.ca>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:40:50 -0400, "B.S." <bs27975.2 at gmail.com>
>> said:
>
>> Proprietary-ness is the most common complaint.
>
> This is a complaint that I have as well, but for me it doesn't
> overrule how convenient GitHub is. GitHub also has a huge community,
> so if you want to share your software, that is an effective place to
> do it.
>
>> I also dislike how people are now treating their README as a
>> project homepage due to the way Github is structured, and not many
>> people are giving their projects a proper homepage.
>
> I like finding out a lot from the README, it saves me from having to
> go to several different websites, when I can find the information I
> want with the project. Maybe I'm weird? Nothing says you can't have
> both a project homepage and an extensive README.
>
>> For git hosting, I use a combination of a self-hosted repository
>> (which only I have write access to) with a cgit front-end, and
>> hosted (free) gitlab.com.  I've heard that Gogs is easier to
>> self-host than GitLab, but I personally don't have any experience
>> self-hosting either.
>
> I started actively using GitHub when I gave up on trying to self-host
> Gitlab. I discovered Gogs a while ago and I'm honestly in love with
> how simple it is. You download and run a single binary (a Go web
> application) and you're running without a hitch. I'm trying to move
> my stuff (slowly) from GitHub to my Gogs instance. This said, GitHub
> is huge and I think its beneficial to at least host a mirror
> repository there.
>
>>> Mind you, I suppose one appreciates additional facilities like
>>> documentation repositories, wiki's, issue tracking, and the like,
>>> as they both seem to - be it for such standalone files, or more.
>
> Gogs offers very GitHub-esque wikis, issue tracking, and merge
> request management. It's a really nice drop-in replacement if that's
> what youre looking for.