[kwlug-disc] Confirmation of meeting announcement

[Khalid Baheyeldin]

Yes.

That is what I am seeing too.

Basically, the Drupal contact form puts From: to be the address of
whomever has filled the form. But the email is being sent from the
specific server, which is not a Yahoo mail server. Hence the email is
rejected.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bob Jonkman via kwlug-disc
<kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
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> I think Yahoo is rejecting mailing list messages that originate from
> @yahoo.* addresses.  So Yahoo users don't see their own messages, or
> any other messages from other Yahoo originators. The rest of us have
> no problem.
>
> Yahoo has implemented DMARC, which tries to verify that the address
> headers are all consistent. But on a mailing list the message sender
> is the mailing list (kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org), the server
> delivering the message is from CCj/Clearline, and the originator's
> "From" address could be somebody at yahoo.com.  DMARC throws a hissy fit,
> and Yahoo mail discards the incoming message because it looks spoofed.
>
> My guess is that Yahoo raised the rejection threshold by another notch
> in the last few weeks, resulting in problems for their users who use
> mailing lists.
>
>
> Christopher Browne from the GTALUG mailing list conveniently supplied
> this link:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html
>
> Seems Yahoo mail users on GTALUG are equally affected.
>
> My advice? Stop using Yahoo mail.
>
> - --Bob.
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> On 2016-04-02 05:04 PM, B.S. via kwlug-disc wrote:
>>> ________________________________ From: Khalid Baheyeldin via
>>> kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> To: KWLUG discussion
>>> <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> Cc: Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> Sent:
>>> Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc]
>>> Confirmation of meeting announcement
>>>
>>>
>>> I got it just fine.
>>>
>>> Yahoo has been overly restrictive in the past few months.
>>>
>>> Not only to this list, but in general.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Paul Nijjar
>>> <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> I have been experiencing weirdness with the KWLUG lists lately.
>>>> I am not getting my own emails sent to the list. That is not a
>>>> tragedy, but I do not know whether anybody else is getting my
>>>> emails either. Could somebody confirm that my message to
>>>> kwlug-announce went through? It shows up in the list archives,
>>>> but I do not trust that.
>>
>>
>> Anyone have a real answer as to what's really going on?
>>
>> To the sender, it doesn't appear the message went through - because
>> they don't see a copy come back to them from the list. Nor is there
>> any error message. (So Paul's link doesn't feel to me like an exact
>> answer for what's going on.)
>>
>> Yet the list gets it, so the message was accepted by Yahoo for
>> forwarding. And it is the list that does the sending to the group,
>> not the user (Yahoo). (Back to the sending user.)
>>
>> And other messages from the list come to the user, so was accepted
>> for receiving by Yahoo.
>>
>> So I don't really get what's wrong / how/why it is not working for
>> Yahoo senders, some of the time. It feels like inconsistent
>> application by the Yahoo servers themselves, and thus not something
>> anyone can do anything about - Yahoo has to fix their servers, it
>> seems.
>>
>> [FWIW - I do yahoo email via the web, or could do it via
>> thunderbird, so it's yahoo smtp/imap, and thus Paul's link wouldn't
>> seem to apply. I suppose I could set up another address at
>> something like openmailbox.org and auto-forward it or something.]
>>
>>
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