[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

[Hubert Chathi]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:19:24 -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> said:

> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Hubert Chathi <hubert at uhoreg.ca> wrote:
>> People fork Debian for any and every reason.  If they don't like the
>> direction that Debian is going, they should feel free to fork.  But
>> using it as a threat is kind of silly.

> It is not a threat in the usual sense. It is a "if we have no choice,
> we will go that route".

They are clearly trying to drum up support for Ian's proposal, and I
don't think it's an effective way to do so.

[...]

>> 
>> The upcoming General Resolution will show what the majority of Debian
>> Developers want, and no matter what the outcome, I don't see a
>> significant number of Developers leaving because of it.

> Bruce Perens (long Open Source advocate, and author of BusyBox)

Don't forget former Debian Project Leader, and main author of the Debian
Free Software Guidelines and the Open Source Definition.

> pointed out that there are governance issues within Debian, and
> adopting systemd is a result of that. His comments were on Slashdot
> when the Debian Fork news article was posted there.

Looking at his recent comments (http://slashdot.org/~Bruce+Perens), I
don't see any comment that I would consider blaming Debian's governance
for the systemd decision.

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> Something like UselessD takes what is good from systemd and removes
> what is bad.

> http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/

Yeah, I'm interested in seeing how some of the new init systems turn
out.  nosh is another one I'm interested in.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html