[kwlug-disc] Truecrypt

Fri May 30 15:46:27 EDT 2014

Speaking of marketing tricks, I recently saw an example of how a marketer manipulated a chart about violent crimes in a state since guns were allowed. At first glance it looks like the point where guns were introduced there was a HUGE drop in violent crime, and the slope continued down. It took me a second to realize what they did, they reversed the numbers: the higher numbers were at the bottom of the chart instead of the top. So instead of being a huge drop in violent crime, it was actually a huge increase that looked like a drop.

But computer-related, companies still market 1000MB=1GB instead of 1024MB=1GB.
Blog: http://www.charlesmccolm.com/
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Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 14:04:10 
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Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Truecrypt

Good info here, thanks for the post.

 > This is true, as is "Bob
 > replied to unsolicted after eating breakfast".

I don't disagree, however that is part of the point. People will 
associate them. It's called marketing. It works. Doesn't mean it's truth.

Like ... on sale now!

(Apparently people react to things they're about to not be able to have 
- like 10% off. Even if they don't need it.)

Hmmm ...

On 14-05-30 01:49 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
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> Unsolicited wrote:
>> So how could Microsoft's end of support for XP have anything to do
>>   with an encrypted file format?
>
> The message on the TrueCrypt site doesn't imply correlation, never mind
> causation: "The development of TrueCrypt was ended in 5/2014 after
> Microsoft terminated support of Windows XP."  This is true, as is "Bob
> replied to unsolicted after eating breakfast".
>
> The latest news is provided by
> https://twitter.com/stevebarnhart/status/472200478345150464
>
>> Shocked, but received 2 replies from an e-mail previously used by a
>>   "David". "There is no longer interest" [...]  He said Bitlocker is
>>   "good enough" and Windows was original "goal of the project". No
>> mention of audit in reply.
>
> David on relicensing and forking the source:
>
>> diplomatic orig reply. "personally" feels that fork is harmful.
>> "The source is still available as a reference though"
>
> And putting to rest that the impending audit scared off the developers:
>
>> "I were happy with the audit, it didn't spark anything. We worked
>> hard on this for 10 years, nothing lasts forever."
>
>
> "David" is likely David Tesarik from the Czech Republic. As a
> non-native English speaker, it would account for some of the odd
> phrasing in the announcement.
>
> (from
> https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.softodrom.ru%2Fap%2Fb19702.shtml
> )
>
> I can understand that he lost interest.  A third-party audit of his
> software raised some $70,000 in funds, probably several orders of
> magnitude more than any donations made for TrueCrypt itself. I can't
> imagine something more depressing.
>
>
> And for anyone contemplating BitLocker as an alternative: You'll lock
> yourself into a closed system that's likely already compromised (with
> no chance of a code review or security audit) that only runs on one
> proprietary OS. Consider if this is really beneficial for your
> clients, or merely easier for the SysAdmins.
>
> - --Bob.
>
>
> On 14-05-30 01:27 PM, unsolicited wrote:
>> I think the first one covers it:
>>
>> Red Flag! Run away!!! "It's only a bunny." "But that rodent has a
>> mean streak a mile wide! Look at all the bones" "You're a looney."
>>
>> So how could Microsoft's end of support for XP have anything to do
>>   with an encrypted file format? Only if that file format was
>> actually a catepillar pretending to be a snake on a iPhone held
>> hostage in Oz. I swear, the world just keeps getting stranger each
>> and every day. And I am more and more smug that I only use Linux,
>> Free Software encryption the only t
>> oahtthalhglkhfk;ngkm,njhovahv,anv,!!
>>
>> On 14-05-29 10:20 AM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>> Many theories floating around ...
>>>
>>> With secret court orders no one can be sure of anything ...
>>>
>>> But there are other possibilities.
>>>
>>> See the comments here (change to threshold 3 or 4 to limit to the
>>>   highest rated ones)
>>>
>>> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/05/29/0243223
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Chris Irwin
>>> <chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wanted to see what everybody's thoughts are about the truecrypt
>>>   "annoucement" yesterday.
>>>
>>> Quoted from their website:
>>>
>>>> WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain
>>>> unfixed
>>> security issues
>>>>
>>>> This page exists only to help migrate existing data encrypted
>>>> by
>>> TrueCrypt.
>>>>
>>>> The development of TrueCrypt was ended in 5/2014 after
>>>> Microsoft
>>> terminated support of Windows XP. Windows 8/7/Vista and later
>>> offer integrated support for encrypted disks and virtual disk
>>> images. Such integrated support is also available on other
>>> platforms (click here for more information). You should migrate
>>> any data encrypted by TrueCrypt to encrypted disks or virtual
>>> disk images supported on your platform.
>>>
>>> There is discussion on slashdot, hacker news, and many other
>>> sites. So far, there is no consensus on what is going on?
>>> Half-hearted compliance with a US NSL? Dead-man switch
>>> prematurely activating?
>>>
>>> Does anybody else have thoughts or insights?
>>>
>>> I'm a dmcrypt user personally, but I know several folks on the
>>> list use truecrypt.
>>>
>>> -- Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca
>>> <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>>
>>>
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